IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by serenitytrek1, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. UUS Contrarian

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    Re: Review - Star Trek #31 I,Enterprise

    I was always intrigued by this character. This awesome.
     
  2. Markonian

    Markonian Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Re: IDW: Ongoing #31: I, Enterprise

    Don't worry, Zahra is definitely not the blonde in McCoy's sickbay.

    There's a panel when Zahra (white, black hair) accompanies Kirk on a landing party. She has a line of dialogue and Kirk calls her Zahra.
     
  3. Christopher

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    Err, the Borg are thousands of years old, and V'Ger was based on a space probe launched in the late 20th century. So no, there's no way this could be the origin of either of those.
     
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    You're stuck it the past man!? Think NuTrek! What Lore can they smash down to make their own?
     
  5. UUS Contrarian

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    The old universe is not really smashed. You still have books coming out taking place there.
     
  6. Nob Akimoto

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    V'ger has already shown up in Nero, too.
     
  7. Christopher

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    But the "lore" of the Abramsverse is that it's not a wholesale reboot but simply an alternate timeline branching off in 2233. By its own ground rules, everything prior to 2233 is supposed to be the same as it was in the Prime canon.
     
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    Unless Voyager 6 was sent not only through space, but through time as well.

    Some years ago, I wrote a "Borg origin" short story, "The Gray People," based on the premise (deprecated as of the Destiny Trilogy) that the Borg originated as an enslaved race of technology geeks, who overthrew their oppressors, but in so doing, became the Borg. And Voyager 6, transported not only across the galaxy, but deep into the past, was a focal point of that incident. As I recall, Jackson Roykirk also figured prominently in my opus.

    At any rate, I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one to have explored the idea that Voyager 6 had been sent into the past.
     
  9. Christopher

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    Which is exactly what I proposed did happen in Ex Machina, but it doesn't change the fact that the probe was launched in the 1970s or '80s. I don't see how some sphere encountered in 2259 could possibly be the origin of it when we already know its origin.

    And I am so sick of the way some fans want to force everything remotely technological in the Trek universe to have a common origin with V'Ger, the Borg, or both. Good grief, there are like a thousand incorporeal godlike races in Trek, so why is it so inconceivable that there could be more than one or two really advanced technological races that aren't offshoots of the same thing?
     
  10. Villordsutch

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    Because they're cool!
     
  11. Christopher

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    I don't understand that answer. If they're cool, what's wrong with wanting multiple different ones to exist rather than insisting that they all have to share a single common origin?
     
  12. Pauln6

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    Awesome. I'll sleep more soundly tonight! Hopefully the skin tone will eventually darken once the artists learn that she's not white but at least she isn't blonde any more! :)
     
  13. Villordsutch

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    I was being humourous it would appear it came across as humourless my apologies.

    I turned to Borg and V'Ger as the cows are being milked and so far we've been given Khan and I'm expecting something else to be delivered either on the big screen or via the comic-book medium.
     
  14. Campe98

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    I chuckled.

    Christopher, it's because many Trek fans like to have everything interconnected. Well, that and Roddenberry apparently said that V'Ger might have visited the Borg Homeworld. I agree that it is a big enough universe that it's not likely the two are connected. Nonetheless if a writer could find a way to interconnect the two (not Shatner's answer in The Return), I probably would be okay with it. But I'm more than happy to believe the two are completely separate things.

    As for 0718? Well, he is cool. ;)
     
  15. Villordsutch

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    :techman:
     
  16. Deranged Nasat

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    So he's not a Deltan, then? Hmm, I wonder what justification the story will offer for having sapient androids incorporated into Starfleet in this reality (the previews seem to suggest he's far from unique, that in fact it's common for a starship to have one of these people aboard).
     
  17. Pauln6

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    I've always found Trek's inconsistent treatment of androids and so-called intelligent holograms to be rather puzzling so I'm keen to see where it leads. In another thread, someone criticised Pulaski's treatment of Data when in fact her behaviour was probably what I would consider more normal for using an interactive device.

    This issue sounds like it could be an interesting character piece and it will be good to get another semi-regular character in the mix. I'm interested to see where it leads.
     
  18. trampledamage

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    Re: IDW: Ongoing #31: I, Enterprise (Reviews included)

    Okay, so I've merged the two threads about issue 31.

    We do have one single thread about the Ongoing series - do you all want to be able to discuss the issues separately, or have it all together as one thread?
     
  19. robau

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    Single thread so I can keep up via subscription.
     
  20. Oso Blanco

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    Re: IDW: Ongoing #31: I, Enterprise

    The blonde chick has already been identified as Zahra, see the Ongoing #26 (The Khitomer Conflict, Part 2).