IDW Star Trek Ongoing...

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  1. Markonian

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    Pictures of Lieutenant Uhuro reminded me of Sisko from "Trials and Tribble-ations".

    I wonder what female Spock's name could be. The whole concept reminds me of Kate Fenton's "Lions and Liquorice".

    James Kirk usually addressed male officers with Mr and Uhura as lieutenant. I wonder whether Jane calls her senior officers Ms and Mrs.

    I'm excited for these two issues.
     
  2. Malaika

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    here's a preview http://www.startrek.com/article/captain-jane-tiberia-kirk-takes-command

    female Spock is really pretty :D
     
  3. Christopher

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    Why "Uhuro?" Granted, the name "Uhura" is a fake construction to begin with, taking the Swahili word uhuru and adding a Latin feminine suffix to it, so I guess they're doing the same with a masculine suffix; but why not just let it be Uhuru?

    And shouldn't it be Pavlona Chekova?
     
  4. Malaika

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    and it should be Pavlona Chekova

    as for Uhura, it's stupid because her own father is also called Uhura (Alhamisi Uhura, not canon but used in many different sources including her bios in the official star trek app), it's not her first name and shouldn't have a female or male variant.
    technically the first name they chose for male Nyota, NMandi, is a different name and might change the origins a bit (as it is from Nigeria while Uhura/Nyota is from Kenya)
     
  5. Therin of Andor

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    In the 21st century, many people choose their own surnames. A friend of mine, who has never married, nor had a de facto relationship, officially changed her surname by deed poll, and then changed it again a few years later because everyone kept spelling it incorrectly. She's also had three totally different first names.

    I teach many children who have names that are nothing like the names on their birth certificates.
     
  6. Markonian

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    Thanks for sharing the link of the preview! I almost can't wait to read the whole issue. I wonder whether Admiral Thomas is a new character or based on another admiral?

    Also, the cover for "I, Enterprise" looks great, too, especially so because it's going to feature 0718, who spent most of the movie being awesome. Funny, I'm almost more excited for the comic series than the movie. :lol:
     
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  7. The Wormhole

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    Given this seems to be an opposite gender universe, I'd say he's a new character. After all, there haven't been any female admirals seen in the Abramsverse yet. In the movies or comics. At least not prominently.
     
  8. Markonian

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    And that's a shame. Gender proportion seems to revert to the male dominated 1960s in the 23rd century. Off-topic, though.

    The movies are exciting, of course, but to reach a wide audience they invariably follow the model of 'our heros vs. evil villain, to save Earth from doom', whereas the comics can actually delve into truly intriguing ideas - extragalactic Gorn, a mirror universe in the new style, genderbending the characters, visiting the Tribble homeworld, a Klingon-Romulan war, Beta III as failed Human colony, etc.
     
  9. Pauln6

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    The fact that they made him a man leads me to suspect that they might actually intend to introduce his female counterpart in the 'real' world. It would be very ironic if they didn't.
     
  10. The Wormhole

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    I suspect the story might end with an epilogue set in the regular Abramsverse in which Kirk answers a call from female Admiral Thomas, a Mirror, Mirror sort of ending. But that's all I'm expecting on the matter.
     
  11. Christopher

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    The preview pages mention a "lightning storm" phenomenon like the one the Narada fell through. That, along with the cover image showing both male and female versions of Kirk and Spock, leads me to think the story will feature a dimensional rift and a meeting of the two universes, a la Red Dwarf's "Parallel Universe."
     
  12. Markonian

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    To me, it suggests we'll see Captain Jane Kirk facing the Narada or meeting elder Lady Spock. Thomas mentioned the Kelvin but no Narada incident. That implies this event hasn't occurred yet. We had that before in the Mirrored issues. :vulcan:
     
  13. Christopher

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    But we already had an alternate-universe version of the events of the first movie in "Mirrored." I don't think it's likely they'd just repeat themselves like that.
     
  14. Markonian

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    That is exactly the reason why I believe they fill repeat it - to follow the pattern. The stories in general are retellings of TOS episodes, and "Mirrored" was uncomfortably close to In a Mirror, Darkly already.

    If the alternate reality crew meets the genderverse crew through another 'lightning storm'-like black hole, it would be the third such event in the A.R. timeline. Whenever somebody would mention it, they'd might say something along the lines of: "Remember the lightning storm? The Kelvin event. Spock's return. Our meeting with Jane Kirk."

    Because there's no guarantee the movie would acknowledge the comics, the comic writers have to write in such a way as to avoid their events coming up dialogue and be discredited, which we already saw happen with the line "Nobody died under my command."

    Another reason is that the black hole-theme is linked to the Narada and accidental time travel. In the genderverse the equivalent of Nero's rampage hasn't occurred yet. It may happen now.


    Apart from those reasons, I'd love to see a cross-over. Maybe they're doing it exactly because there was none in "Mirrored". :bolian:
     
  15. Markonian

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    I wouldn't be that optimistic. Admiral Thomas could've been chosen to a) balance the woman-heavy cast, or b), to show a man in charge to complement the female captain.
     
  16. Pauln6

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    But if that were necessary, surely we would have had a female admiral in the 'real' universe by now to a) balance the man-heavy cast, or b), to show a woman in charge to complement the male captain. :p

    My tongue is firmly in my cheek - that even in a gender-swapped world the writers refuse to have female admirals.

    I will reserve judgment and genuine critique for when I've read the story however.
     
  17. Pauln6

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    I think I'll post my comments on the latest issue in the ongoing thread as there isn't really that much to debate and it's nice to be able to do a comparison with earlier issues. Overall, though, the story hasn't really got going. I think they've made the history identical apart from the gender swapping to keep the premise simple but apart from that the story ran just like a typical ongoing issue. The gender swap isn't interesting enough to carry a story on it's own but it will be interesting to see what else is in store next month.

    We have Jason Rand, Chris Chapel, and Carl Marcus so these are all the recurring female counterparts except Zahra. The only thing that stood out for me was Kirk referring to herself as a 'female' captain. I can't imagine NuKirk ever feeling the need to refer to himself as a 'male' captain. It's also interesting that they brought back Chapel and made the commodore male, because, despite the numbers, they've never done the same courtesy in the 'real' universe. Yay for Rand though - I was starting to worry that s/he'd been forgotten.

    It would be really nice if we got to see every one of the 'real' characters back in the 'real' universe (I can't call it the Prime Universe anymore - should I call it NuPrime?). If nothing else I want to see a female commodore but I will also weep tears of joy if Chapel were to transfer back onto the ship as a biologist or even a nurse if they must.
     
  18. Markonian

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    IDW: Ongoing #31: I, Enterprise (Reviews included)

    As per the TrekToday Headlines, IDW's Star Trek Ongoing #31 is coming.

    Readable pages for preview (need to scroll down; second one after My Little Pony): http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/1403/11/idwfirsts.htm

    Blurb:
    This issue sheds some light on Science Officer 0718, a lieutenant only seen in STID and a GE commercial so far.

    The available pages feature the recurring characters Keenser and security officer Zahra. Also, that might be the cute white-haired girl from STID Bones is treating there in the sickbay.
    Meanwhile, Spock is playing the harp for Uhura. Is their relationship rekindling?

    It looks like 0718 is an android rather than a cyborg.
     
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  19. Pauln6

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    Re: IDW: Ongoing #31: I, Enterprise

    Looks interesting but with so little dialogue and only two issues, i reserve my judgment on whether it is epic.

    I hope the woman isn't meant to be Zahra! I really want Zahra to be featured as a semi-regular but after whitewashing Khan I'll be quite annoyed if they do the same to her. If they want to write about a caucasian blonde chick then use Rand, if they want to write about a south asian chick then use Zahra. The ethnicity of these third tier characters is largely irrelevant at this point since they deliver only plot driven dialogue but with plenty of caucasian characters to go around it would be astonishing if they changed her ethnicity intentionally. They just need to send a memo to the colorists.
     
  20. Villordsutch

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    Review - Star Trek #31 I,Enterprise

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    Full Review - http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2014/03/comic-book-review-star-trek-31.html