I still don't get it.

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  1. darkshadow0001

    darkshadow0001 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I actually watched some episodes of Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman, and noticed the flying sequences even in this series surpassed that of Superman Returns. If Singer had a budget for a good Superman movie, then why did a lot of the flying sequences in the film just suck? :(
     
  2. Brikar99

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    You.... You're kidding, right?
     
  3. FalTorPan

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    The flying sequences in Superman Returns were vastly superior to those in Lois and Clark. Superman was lit as if he were actually in the sky, rather than lit as if he were actually in a bluescreen stage.
     
  4. DerbyDave

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    If you really believe that, also keep in mind that the LOIS AND CLARK effects only had to stand up to scrutiny on the smaller TV screen, in the days before wide-screen TVs and HDTV, and the SUPERMAN RETURNS effects had to hold up on the motion picture screen.

    Bit difference in the amount of detail, and therefore budget.
     
  5. darkshadow0001

    darkshadow0001 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I'm serious. When I went to see Superman Returns, I expected awesome flying sequences and such and all I got was a lot of CGI, and hardly any closeups.

    I watched the pilot episode of Lois & Clark and the flying scenes were just... better...
     
  6. theenglish

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    I thought this was a flame post when I originally read it. This is like my father saying that the originally Buck Rogers effects were better than Farscapes because at least the ship's were made of real models.
     
  7. Dream

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    The flying effects in Superman Returns weren't that great. They should have shown Superman flying closer to the ground much more so we could get idea of how fast he was moving. Iron Man's flying effects were much better IMO.
     
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    Just when you think you've heard it all...:wtf:
     
  9. RandyS

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    True. But it wasn't just the flying scenes. Everything about Lois & Clark was just.....better.
     
  10. darkshadow0001

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    I knocked this show too, but out of boredom I rented a copy of season one and found out it wasn't all that bad. Not as good as Smallville or the movies, but it was still entertaining.

    What I meant about the flying was the show had more close-ups of Cain flying like the Christopher Reeve films. If that was possible to do in those days, why did the flying sequences in SR look cheesy?
     
  11. Professor Zoom

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    :wtf:


    I think I threw up a little. Smallville. Blech.
     
  12. Brikar99

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    ...wow... Better must mean something totally different than what I've thought it meant my entire life.
     
  13. theenglish

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    To be fair, Lois and Clark was a well done series for what it was. It was never ever meant to take itself seriously, and therefore should not be held up to the same standards as other shows. Smallville on the other hand simply takes itself too seriously and loses its charm because of that.
     
  14. TheArsenal

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    Say what you will about SR's flaws, if Superman: the Movie made me believe a man could fly, Returns made me believe a man could fly faster than a speeding bullet.
     
  15. darkshadow0001

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    I'm not saying Superman Returns was a bad movie. In fact, I saw it twice. I'm just saying I don't understand if our technology for effects is supposed to be better today then 10-20 years ago then how come the flying seems more "real" then the Chris Reeve films and Lois & Clark. That's really all I was disappointed with SR. I can still watch the Chris Reeve films and say "wow" to the flying, but with SR, it's just "meh".
     
  16. davejames

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    I certainly had issues with the flying in SR (mostly with the excessive use of a clearly digital Supes)..... but the effects were still LIGHTYEARS better than that of Lois & Clark.

    Hell, I think even Superboy had better flying effects than Lois & Clark.
     
  17. votd

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    I though the Flying in Lois and clark was appalling! The blue screen was just...bad. Especially the bit in the pilot where he lifts the shuttle into orbit.
     
  18. darkshadow0001

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    Well, you got me there. I never knew this series even existed until I read about it here on the net.
     
  19. Lord Lunacy

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    Heh, I just don't see what you're seeing, not even close. To me the Flying sequences were visually superior in every way to Lois & Clarks sequences. To each their own I guess.
     
  20. CorporalClegg

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    I actually agree to some extent. The problem with the SR shots is they were almost too flashy. They were sort of vapid and lifeless and took me out of the movie. Of course, a lot of that had to do with the awful cutting.

    I'm strongly urged to take some time and go on a "Singer Sucks!" rant, but I'll spare everyone the trouble.
     

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