I know. And I agree. I think however, the 'business' angle is irrefutable; we know what works and doesn't work. We know a TMP movie isn't going to happen any time soon. We know big-bangs-for-your-buck is successful and at times, damn entertaining and we know that JJ's Trek is working and is here to stay, albeit most likely for only another movie or so. I just see a lot of otherwise entertaining conversation and idea threads - however wild and unrealistic they may be - derailed by what are essentially office meetings with charts and graphs and facts and figures. I don't actually mean for anyone to stop posting or anything. It's just a thing that bugs me.