How Much Does JJ Abrams Know About Star Trek

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by trekker670, May 6, 2013.

  1. The Mirrorball Man

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    What does Lionel Messi know about the history of football?
     
  2. SalvorHardin

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    I think the next director must be chosen in a big Star Trek convention.
    Only those who appear in costume or with some kind of forehead/ear prosthetic and with an above average score in the Purity Test will have voting rights.
     
  3. Commishsleer

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    You can't get that from forcing yourself to watch TOS and the films as research. You've got to love it - the same way he loves SW I suppose.

    Meyer and Bennett had the advantage of having a cast with enough power to push them into the right direction and enough sense to listen to them when they said Kirk wouldn't do this, Scotty wouldn't say that.
     
  4. Phily B

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    There is an interview where he doesn't know what planet Luke was brought up on in Star Wars! Who cares, he'll probably make a much better movie than Lucas.
     
  5. mos6507

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    BS. In this genre, you have to KNOW the world you're world-building in.
     
  6. mos6507

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    They may not have known a lot up front, but they did the proper research. Go read the old interviews and they'll talk about how they went back and watched the show--a lot. They just didn't egotistically move forward with their vision without knowing what came before. Sure, they changed things, but they were mindful of what they were changing.
     
  7. beamMe

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    These aren't the same characters. They may be similar but they aren't carbon copies.
     
  8. JarodRussell

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    I believe in that a director needs to delve into this in order to deliver a coherent film. Which is probably why my favorite films are those where the director also wrote or co-wrote the script.

    If you direct a real world drama, you usually as a director also get to know the subject matter, otherwise you can't direct a proper film. And there's enough material in the Star Trek universe (and a lot of other fictional universes) to be able to treat it like it was a real world drama.
     
  9. King Daniel Beyond

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    Abrams did his research, he saw all the TOS episodes and movies, and even read some of the novels.

    STVI is an example of a did-not-do-research movie. The characters are treated awfully and the entire plot contradicts "Yesterday's Enterprise". If you've read co-writer Denny Martin Flynn's novel sequel The Fearful Summons you'll get an even better idea of how poor their grasp on the characters were.
     
  10. Admiral Buzzkill

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    No.

    He's directing a movie, not a genre. Some trekkies may take the minutiae all too seriously, but what matters is that he's made a film that apparently a lot of people enjoy and that's going to be tremendously successful.
     
  11. The Wormhole

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    :techman: There's hope for some around here after all.
     
  12. BillJ

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    And Orci & Kurtzman watched the shows and one of them is a fan of Trek Lit. I don't think geek cred is a barometer of whether someone is capable of making a good movie.

    John Logan was a big fan...
     
  13. Commishsleer

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    He got the main characters right - it was only the minor characters who looked like fools:)
     
  14. Sector 7

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    Bingo! :techman:
    Gene Roddenberry said it best, "If I listened to the fans, Star Trek would be sh!t." Proof positive that JJ Abrams did it right.:techman:
     
  15. trevanian

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    There, better ...
     
  16. nightwind1

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    He knows enough to please this fan who's been enjoying Trek since 1966.
     
  17. Nero's Shadow

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    I think JJ knows enough and if he doesn't I'm sure he can ask one his best friends who are die hard trek fans Bryan Burke Oric and Kurtz Damon Lindorf ??
     
  18. The Wormhole

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    I agree, that is better. :techman:
     
  19. SalvorHardin

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  20. Ovation

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    Am I the only one who read that with her accent in my mind?