"How many crew" line & "Where No Man" Comic (Possible minor spoilers)

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  1. Cadet49

    Cadet49 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    At the beginning of Into Darkness, Kirk says something about how he's never lost a crewmember's life yet, as proof of his great track record. Since the movie is canon, does that null the comic adaptation of "Where No Man Has Gone Before" of Star Trek Ongoing, where Kirk loses some crew members on his first mission?

    Personally, I like the movie set-up, where Kirk is still overconfident because he hasn't had to face the loss of people on his orders yet, so that we can really see him mature...
     
  2. BritishSeaPower

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    Re: "How many crew" line & "Where No Man" Comic (Possible minor spoile

    The thing that annoyed me about that is that he clearly loses people during the final battle with Nero!
     
  3. PsychoPere

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    Re: "How many crew" line & "Where No Man" Comic (Possible minor spoile

    ^ I don't think Kirk was counting his field ascension to acting captain during the Nero incident while arguing with Pike. It seems more likely that he was only including his time as captain since the end of the previous film, where he was officially assigned to command the ship.

    As for the Star Trek Ongoing comic series' depictions of death under Kirk's command... well, tie-in writers can only do their best, and there will be mistakes when writing a comic tie-in to a movie that is in active production while you're churning out scripts of your own.
     
  4. Christopher

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    Re: "How many crew" line & "Where No Man" Comic (Possible minor spoile

    Right. Trek tie-ins have been getting contradicted by new canon for decades now -- it's just an occupational hazard for tie-ins (just as the risk of being contradicted by new scientific discoveries or just the passage of time is part of all science fiction writing). However much Bad Robot may have wanted to keep the tie-ins more consistent with the canon this time, it's not that easy to achieve.
     
  5. propita

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    Re: "How many crew" line & "Where No Man" Comic (Possible minor spoile

    Was "Cupcake" one of the guys who went with Kirk et al to Kronos?
     
  6. Therin of Andor

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    Re: "How many crew" line & "Where No Man" Comic (Possible minor spoile

    Yes, and Kirk actually calls him Hendorff onscreen, as established in the IDW comics. He's credited as "Cupcake" in the closing credits of STiD.
     
  7. Christopher

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    Re: "How many crew" line & "Where No Man" Comic (Possible minor spoile

    ^I think it's likely that the decision to identify "Cupcake" with Mr. Hendorff from "The Apple" was made by the filmmakers in writing the script, and then the comics revealed that name as one of the Easter eggs/sequel hints that they were designed to include.