hi ho Silver, The Lone Ranger rides on....

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Temis the Vorta, Oct 13, 2011.

  1. Professor Zoom

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    Billing is the least of the problems with this movie.
     
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  3. Alidar Jarok

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    It's the SGA rules, though. Unless Depp takes no billing, he has to be first.
     
  4. Professor Zoom

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    Do you mean SAG, Screen Actor's Guild? I don't think they have any rules about billing beyond actors HAVE to be billed.

    Top billing is the agent's job... Where an actor is billed is something that is negotiated.
     
  5. Enterprise is Great

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    Yeah, the trailer makes this movie look totally shitty.
     
  6. stj

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    The poster should be Silver wearing his hat. I expect that is much more indicative of what this movie has to offer.
     
  7. sojourner

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    ^Are we sure Silver is a male in this version? Can't have a retelling/remake/re-imagining these days without changing the gender of at least one character.
     
  8. Gaith

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    FROM THE STUDIO THAT BROUGHT YOU
    JOHN CARTER...





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  9. Dream

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    Whoopi Goldberg also chose not be listed in the credits in Generations over being listed first before her good friend, Patrick Stewart.
     
  10. Alidar Jarok

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    Yeah, sorry about the typo

    Haven't we had the discussion in this very thread already? Clearly you don't have to be billed since actors have chosen not to be billed. Whoopie Goldberg is Generations is the perfect example. The story is that she would have been billed first had she chosen not to be billed at all.
     
  11. Samurai8472

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    No. Depp is senior officer at Stargate Atlantis. He also gets to throw lemons at Mckay.
     
  12. Professor Zoom

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    I don't know. I haven't read every post in this thread...

    Still, I'm pretty certain SAG doesn't have any rules about billing... maybe, though, something about award winners? I know that in promo materials, academy award winners have to be listed as such.

    And by the time she was involved with Star Trek, Goldberg had won her Oscar.
     
  13. Admiral Buzzkill

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    To the best of my knowledge - which is limited - this kind of billing is not a matter of SAG rules but is negotiated by the actors.

    If I'm an actor who has been successfully negotiating a certain level of credit and pay in movies and I accept less than that for a given appearance when I could get more, I'm taking money out of the pockets of people like my manager and/or agent as well as giving leverage to the producers on the next project ("You worked for less for Codswallop: The Movie, didn't you? Why them and not us?"). If I'm an actor who's in demand you're not only buying my talent but my reputation. Whether Marlon Brando delivered a performance worth what he was paid for Superman, for example, is a matter of opinion; however, Richard Donner noted that signing Brando essentially got the movie made and got it the budget it needed.
     
  14. Harvey

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    The SAG/AFTRA contract (2011) is available on their website.

    This is what it has to say about theatrical billing:

    In other words, this is negotiated by actors and their agents.

    (Or, just what Dennis said).
     
  15. scotpens

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    Looks to me like a regular Stetson cowboy-style hat.

    Getting off-topic for a moment, but all this talk about billing reminds me of the compromise for the two leading stars of The Towering Inferno.

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    Note the names are in alphabetical order left-to-right, but Newman's name is higher, so neither star could claim "top billing." Actors and their egos . . .
     
  16. Admiral Buzzkill

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    [yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtPplcqxv2I[/yt]
     
  17. Professor Zoom

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    Sigh.



    ;)
     
  18. stj

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    Speaking of avatars (:lol:) who is the man with glasses giving us the finger? (I'm tempted to assume it's J.J. Abrams but that would be too glorious an example of unconscious irony.)
     
  19. sojourner

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    It is.
     
  20. stj

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    ^^^(cue sound of jaw dropping to floor)

    Thanks.