Haven Season 2: Discussion, Spoilers, Etc.

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  1. propita

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    Yeah, there was a definite lie and some animosity between the brothers. Liking the new Audrey (Audrey 2?) more than I thought, as in they're working her in well.
     
  2. 1001001

    1001001 I Like the Beats and the Shouting Moderator

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    I'm really looking forward to hearing the explanation for Audrey/Lucy and Audrey 2.

    They better not screw it up!

    :scream:

    PS: As a straight man, I have to add that I think Duke is the most handsome man I've ever laid eyes on. He's mesmerizing.
     
  3. BenRoethig

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    I love the Audry/Audry banter, especially considering how sarcastic she is. I really hope they don't resolve which is the "real" Audry Parker too soon
     
  4. RJDonner&Blitzen

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    This season is definitely moving along better, arc-wise. I thought this episode was as good as the premiere. The Nathan-Duke relationship continues to crack me up; I loved it when Duke offered to spring for a prostitute. These are guys who are supposed to be friends, but can't be-- not yet, anyway. And I loved the finale when Nathan cured the girl at his own expense. The show has been a bit slow, but it's always had heart.

    It looks like the newspaper brothers will be playing a bigger part this year, which is good; they really have a strong New England flavor. I also agree that Audrey II is fitting in nicely; although it looks more and more likely that she's Audrey I.

    The other interesting thing is that puzzle. It retained its power centuries after its "troubled" maker died. Usually, as with the "Rogue" guy, troubles end with the person's death; have we ever seen trouble persist like that before?
     
  5. 1001001

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    Well, they made a point of showing us the Chief's moving body pieces in the cooler. Is it possible his story isn't over?

    On another note, boy they sure got rid of Duke's wife awfully fast.... :lol:. I have a feeling it's not the end for her either.

    They did make a point to say they thought Ian had help...??
     
  6. RJDonner&Blitzen

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    Yeah, I'm sure the chief is coming back; but that would mean that he's still alive in some way. If a phenomenon persists past the death of the troubled, that would imply that it's something supernatural that's independent of the person rather than an innate trait.

    I was surprised at Duke's comment about his wife. It almost seemed like they decided to drop the plotline after filming the first episode and tied it up with that one line. I hope not....
     
  7. 1001001

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    Episode 3: Love Machine

    A decent episode as far as the stand alone story. Jealous machines. Kind of creepy.

    They're now becoming more direct with the idea that our Audrey is actually Lucy (the piano playing scene). Is she a ghost or an angel (a la Starbuck)? A reincarnation? Was Lucy troubled? And what to make of Audrey 2's departure?

    Oh, and...what the hell is going on with Duke's wife? They dismiss her with a single throw away line in episode 2, then here she is as if nothing happened. Where is this going?

    And of course, the familiar twist: what's in the barn? And where did the barn go?
     
  8. Avalon

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    Oh, hey -- I did some reading over at Television WithOut Pity's Haven forum after the episode aired, and it turns out that Duke was talking about Julia (the ME's daughter/substitute ME) going to Africa, not Evi (his wife). FWIW, I don't think we were the only ones who were confused by the comment; it was thrown out there so quickly. But yeah, initially I was sitting there scratching my head in bafflement when Evi showed up last night!
     
  9. Mr. Adventure

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    I was hoping for a Pontypool reunion with the rev and his real life wife guest star.

    I was just getting warmed up to the second Audrey as well.

    Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to Red Lobster.
     
  10. Avalon

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    Audrey II said she met her doctor-boyfriend (Ben? and did she mention a last name?) after Our!Audrey had left for Haven. Soooo...I'm wondering if he really was just someone she happened to meet, or is he part of whatever is going on with Our!AgentHoward and the late Chief?

    How did Our!Audrey explain to him how they knew to contact him? She told him they found Audrey II on the beach, unable to remember anything (I think)...
     
  11. propita

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    The guy's name is Brad and I don't remember a last name being given. And Audrey 1 lied to him about how/where Audrey 2 was found.

    What I tried to see was this map in the file Evi stole for Duke. I paused the recording but didn't see anything the looked "important." Not that I'd necessarily know what was important.

    Duke, Nathan, and Audrey talked a bit about "finding the Colorado Kid" and how they didn't remember anything. Huh? What was that about? Didn't Duke once say that the reason he never told Audrey about the picture was because he didn't remember? Is that what this was about?

    As for the machine love, why not have the GF leave town, and then follow after a sufficient time?
     
  12. 1001001

    1001001 I Like the Beats and the Shouting Moderator

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    Well.

    That's very different.

    [​IMG]

    :lol:


    Yes, Duke has previously said he didn't remember anything about that day and that's why he didn't mention anything to Audrey. Maybe the point is whatever happened to Duke and Nathan that day is what happened to Audrey 2 on the island?

    I'm not sure....
     
  13. TimmyWl

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    I watched the episode two times. I think the map alone got Duke's attention because on the flip side of it (as he is looking through the file) has the symbol that is going to be on the person that will kill him.
     
  14. propita

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    @ Digits, Audrey 2 appears to have total amnesia and Nathan and Duke can't remember only that day. Though it could be temporary, I suppose, as she seems to remember Brad.

    In that snippet of a scene, did Audrey 2 remember anything from before Audrey 1 went to Haven, or just since? That seems to be a split, in that Audrey 2 met Brad after Audrey 1 went to Haven. Or am I misunderstanding?
     
  15. 1001001

    1001001 I Like the Beats and the Shouting Moderator

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    I may be misunderstanding your question, but I think they both have the exact same memories up until Audrey 1 showed up in Haven.

    On the boat, Audrey 2 told Duke she met Brad after Audrey 1 came to Haven.

    So yes there is a split at that point. At least that is how it seems to me.
     
  16. RJDonner&Blitzen

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    I'm thinking that may be an indication that Audrey 2 is the doppelganger. As propita said, Nathan and Duke forgot only one day, but Audrey 2 forgot everything-- except Brad, who she met after the split.

    I loved Duke searching through the woods calling for "Audrey 2." :rommie:

    I wonder if every episode will have some kind of homage to King. Last week it was IT. This week it was Trucks. :D
     
  17. 1001001

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    But if Audrey 2 is the doppleganger, what is the point? She drops in, looks around for a while, gets amnesia and leaves.

    I'm going to stick to the Audrey 1 is Lucy theory.

    For now.

    :lol:

    ;)


    BTW: Without any spoilers....has anyone ever read the short story this is based on? Is it close to what we're seeing?
     
  18. Aragorn

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    Other than the two reporters (although one name is changed and they're now brothers, and the name they kept is substantially younger on the TV show) and the Gray Gull, Haven has nothing to do with the short story. The mystery in the short story is about how a guy seen alive in Colorado can be found dead on the coast of Maine five hours later. No troubles, no FBI, no Audrey, no Duke, no Nathan, no Haven, no nothing.
     
  19. 1001001

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    Huh.

    Sounds like it is not even "loosely based" on the story...

    :confused:
     
  20. propita

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    I did like, was it Duke's line: "the blonde one's nicer."