Have Star Trek Writers Ever Tried to Create an Unlikable Character?

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  1. Andrew Harris

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  2. Christopher

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    Yeah, it did do that deliberately to some extent. But I figure that the KJV was probably the main book used to teach literacy to a lot of English-speaking people in the 17th century or so, thus it stands to reason that it would've been pretty influential.

    In fact, the KJV was deliberately given a very limited and basic vocabulary, only about 5000 words aside from proper names, IIRC, so that it would be accessible to people without a formal education. So on second thought, maybe it didn't contribute that much. Which is an interesting contrast with Shakespeare, whose works have the largest vocabulary of any single English author's ouvre.
     
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    It's spelled "oeuvre." It's French. :)




    ("Now his oeuvre's in the Louvre, and he's Paul Cezanne....")
     
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    I knew that... Oeups.
     
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    Oh, wow. There's like three levels of irony there. Well done, Keith.
     
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    I don't like labels for transitional things like that, but I suppose you have me there.

    Now, about Jellico being a jerk???

    Anyone???
     
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    And sometimes it becomes Ganges grene.

    --Ted
     
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    Just this week I saw an archived episode of a b/w Aussie kids' TV show from 1965 (and I hadn't seen "The Magic Circle Club" since '65) and a female bear was having a bizarre argument with a wooden bird puppet about the Japanese china she'd just bought, accusing him that his lines were Double Dutch and therefore all Greek to her. Hilarious, but I wonder if I was laughing as hard at that scene in 1965 when I was six?
     
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    Why I Love iTunes, Part 97: I hadn't actually thought about the song in question for ages (it's called "Paul Cezanne," which has been performed by many folks over the years, among them the Washington Squares and Five Chinese Brothers, and the chorus goes "Cezanne, Cezanne / The father of cubism"), but after writing that post, I went to iTunes and downloaded it.

    Living in the 21st century is just cool....
     
  10. Andrew Harris

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    Yeah, that's what I meant by "levels of irony". Five Chinese Brothers is also the name of that children's book from the '30s that's FILLED with the exact kind of racial stereotypes we've been talking about.

    Damn. Now I have to go download that song too. I'm a huge Cezanne fan.

    [​IMG]
     
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    ^ What a visionary! Painting ridged-forehead Klingons decades before TMP...

    Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman
     
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    I checked The Five Chinese Brothers out of my school library when I was in first or second grade... and never returned it. Somehow, in each of the three elementary schools I went to, there was one book I was supposed to return but never did. It was TFCB for the first school, an assigned textbook on Cincinnati history for the second, and an assigned textbook called The Story of American Freedom for the third. I didn't deliberately steal them, they just somehow slipped through the cracks, got misplaced until it was too late.
     
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    I'm a school librarian, remember. Send me your fines now and I won't tell. ;) :rommie:
     
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    Do you take quatloos?
     
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    Three assorted books for one Cardassian lek
     
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    And what will you trade an authentic Cardassian lek for? ;)
     

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