Haters of Star Trek: Discovery - wtf?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by SpaceLama, Aug 11, 2016.

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Do you already hate Discovery?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Overgeeked

    Overgeeked Captain Captain

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    Children by action rather than children by age. Endless bitching about TV shows that haven't even aired by with calls to cancel before it's even been cast or shot...yeah, that's basically the definition of childish temper tantrum.

    You seem to think you're refuting my point when you're just proving it.
     
  2. Scout101

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    Ascension
     
  3. Kegg

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    See? Someone likes this thing. The same applies to really any TV show that's getting renewed; presumably there are also people who watch - let's say - Blindspot.
    Well, obviously. My point is just stuff succeeds regardless of whether or not you like it. There's dozens of cancelled yet beloved shows - it's essentially Bryan Fuller's entire career as a showrunner and creator.

    TNT also seems to stick to its genre shows a little more now - they had the more space-y Falling Skies run for what seemed like forever (and I never warmed to that one, either.)
     
  4. Greg Cox

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    Thank you.

    And I forgot all about FALLING SKIES as well. There really is too much genre TV to keep track of these days. :)

    As for TNT, THE LIBRARIANS actually wrapped up filming its third season on Friday, so it's been thriving there as well. Not that I've been paying close attention to their production schedule or anything.

    (Hoping to finish writing the second tie-in book this week . ...)
     
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  5. sttngfan1701d

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    I don't hate it. I'm looking forward to it. After 11 years of fanfilms of varying quality (usually mediocre to poor) set in the Prime Universe, I can't wait to see what a studio production looks like. I'm just kinda disappointed that it's a prequel.

    But it is what it is. Time to embrace it until we see it, and if it sucks, hate on it then, with actual EVIDENCE to support why you hate it.
     
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  6. RandyS

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    TNG was a special case for two reasons. First, there weren't any other sci-fi shows on at the time, so it didn't have the same kind of competition it would have today. And second, it was in first run syndication, which was, while not exactly new in 1987, was still uncommon.
     
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  7. locutus101

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    I still can't believe that TNG could get away with such an awful first season regardless of the competition or lack thereof. There was some room for improvement!
     
  8. RandyS

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    Well, I think much of that could be blamed on Roddenberry's trying to control the show while battling failing health, and not stopping his lawyer from writing episodes himself (which wasn't his job). Anyway, I don't think the first season was all that bad. It beat that insipid Xindi season on ENTERPRISE by several thousand light years, and is certainly better than anything on TV today.

    And now to answer the thread question, no, I don't hate DISCOVERY. How can I? I haven't seen it yet. I hope it isn't in the vein of shows over the past decade, but wiether it is or isn't, I plan to at least check it out because it's both sci-fi AND Star Trek related. Two excellent endorsements right there.
     
  9. locutus101

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    I think we're all eager to have a look at it.
     
  10. BillJ

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    Three reasons: It also had "Star Trek" in the title. If it had been called Space Patrol, people wouldn't have cared, they wouldn't have sought it out to watch it.
     
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  11. Greg Cox

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    I used to joke that if MERCY POINT had been called STAR TREK: MERCY POINT it would have run for years . ... :)

    But that was years ago, in another time.
     
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  12. locutus101

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    The space station looks like a cross. Is that a religious thing?
     
  13. OpenMaw

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    My point was that what you're making sound like a considerable size of people is probably close to a petri dish sampling.

    My aim was neither. Aside of disagreeing with your initial point, the rest of my response is more about emphasizing the subtleties of things.

    "The details are everything." :)


    On the subject of cancelled TV shows, going back to Firefly, much like Crusade, it too was the subject of some exec meddling. Episodes were shown out of order, and at least two episodes went unaired/unseen until the DVD release. They apparently were quite confused and didn't know how to advertise the thing either.


    RE: TNG lasting past season 2 and Star Trek holding on for 18 years. JMS once was told that there was room for only Science Fiction show on television, and that's Star Trek. He was told Babylon 5 would not work out for that reason.
     
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  14. Overgeeked

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    Based on a sizable chunk of the response to the DSC news we've had so far, they're not far off.
     
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  15. Greg Cox

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    It was about a medical station in space, so they were probably going for a Red Cross thing.

    I don't recall the show being particularly religious. It was basically an attempt to combine a medical drama with space opera, which was not a bad idea even if the execution left something to be desired.

    Think the "Sector General" books by James White.
     
  16. WebLurker

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    Maybe that's why the new Trek show is being released through online streaming services? To partially avoid all the competition and give it something to stand out from the pack besides the franchise it belongs to?
     
  17. Degra1

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    Yes these days there's a lot and has been a lot of sff all crap--V reboot, The event, Caprica, dark matters, the expanse, killjoys, invasion, breaking gravity, falling skies, star gate Atlantis, star gate universe, fringe, x files mini series.
     
  18. Silanda

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    Do I hate it? No - it's impossible to hate something that hasn't even started filming.
    Do I have a great deal of scepticism about it? Yes. I hate the ship design. It looks like a crappy kitbash of a starship and something else, a problem which the McQuarrie design had. Also, I'm not a fan of the setting at all. I really don't think another prequel is a good idea, or a good entry point for new fans, so I just have this nasty feeling that they're going to say it's set in the Prime universe but then ignore a lot of what has gone before. Hopefully I'm wrong.
     
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  19. fireproof78

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    This is a good summary for how I feel too. I don't "hate" it (that requires an emotional investment that I'm not willing to give it). I'm just skeptical of it and leery of another prequel.
     
  20. Jerikka Dawn

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    Not to be pissy or anything, but there's no need to be condescending ("let it go") -- Einstein was replying to a specific point made by someone who was claiming that the main plot thrust of "Balance of Terror" was a "throwaway line."