Harrison Ford confirms Blade Runner 2 discussions

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  1. C.E. Evans

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    I never bought into the idea that Deckard was a replicant in the movie (was surprised that people even thought that really), so an older human Deckard in the sequel is what I expect.
     
  2. Deckerd

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    I don't know how many times I will have to say this but whatever happens in a new film, will not change the original or anyone's interpretation of it.
     
  3. Tosk

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    Personally, I'd say it's extremely likely to change the interpretation of it for some people.
     
  4. Deckerd

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    Then they don't understand the principle of a one-off movie.
     
  5. Tosk

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    That's their business. My only point was how it's weird that you could state as an absolute how thousands of other people will react to a movie.
     
  6. Deckerd

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    I'm stating nothing except that it won't change the original film. The interpretation thing I admit is a silly thing to say. If Deckard doesn't appear except in back story if would be the best use of the character since it will confound everyone who is ready to claim it 'explains' the first film. That sort of historical retrofitting is the epitome of what is wrong with reboots.
     
  7. Saul

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    Or four different versions of a one off movie.
     
  8. Deckerd

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    We've been over Ridley Scott's money spinning before. I can't be bothered rehashing it.
     
  9. davejames

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    Well if it explains once and for all whether Deckard was a replicant, I think in that case it probably would change one's interpretation of the original.

    Obviously if the movie sucks we can try to pretend it never happened, but sometimes that's a lot easier said than done (the SW prequels being the most obvious example-- try as I might, when Old Ben describes training Vader in ANH I can't help but think now of whiny prequel Anakin, which annoys the hell out of me).
     
  10. JWPlatt

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    Scott's revelation that he will be Producer of Blade Runner 2 - not Director - has left me less enthusiastic. It has, however, increased my optimism for Prometheus 2 actually being more than vaporfilm (just a bunch of talk and intentions). In both cases, there's probably a hysteresis about them - they'll be very good or very bad. And I'm afraid to open the mystery box out of fear of disappointment.
     
  11. Samurai8472

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    Well since Deckard is old he probably wandered off somewhere

    ;)
     
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  13. Deckerd

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    Well that's bad news. Prometheus demostrates that he is not competent to make a decent follow-on film.
     
  14. Saul

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    I'd take Scott any day over any other Director not named Christopher Nolan.

    Prometheus demonstrated that he needed a better script writer that realizes that 1+1 does not equal 5.
     
  15. Deckerd

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    There's no way he wouldn't have changed things for the better if he'd been aware of just what a turkey he was producing. I have no faith in his abilities now.
     
  16. Tosk

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    Yeah, screw that guy for making one crappy movie.
     
  17. 137th Gebirg

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    Damn...you'd think some people were talking about Uwe Boll. :shrug:
     
  18. davejames

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    Not to excuse the piss-poor writing job Lindelof did, but according to him Ridley Scott was fully on board with the story and was even responsible for an awful lot of the story decisions that were made. Lindelof was more or less just a hired hand.

    And judging from a lot of his other movies in the last 10 years, Scott's story instincts don't seem to be nearly as good as they once were (unless they were never that great to begin with and he just lucked out with some really good scripts early on).
     
  19. Deckerd

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    I beg to differ. Where Scott was peerless was in the way he directed. Blade Runner is a series of vignettes linked together by a simple narrative. The genius is the way Scott crafted the vignettes and then strung them together into a masterpiece, in a setting that was an original and immersive film noir.

    Alien also took a different genre and transformed it into another original masterpiece. In my opinion this period was the white heat of creation in Ridley Scott's directorial career and he hasn't ever managed to replicate it. Gladiator was as close as he got but because he chose a historical setting rather than scifi, it was hampered by all the baggage that these sort of films attract. It was a financial and popular triumph but nobody's going to put it in their best film list.
     
  20. Tiny Timby

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    Prometheus demonstrated to me that Scott's core talents --- amazing visuals and relentlessness of themes -- are still incredibly sharp and he hasn't lost a single step.

    Prometheus is an amazing film that people hate because they wanted Alien 0.5 (which Spaihts' terrible first draft was).