Derp. With the exception of maybe Griffith, the others are not applicable to the conversation. And Porter is probably more deserving. They others' influence has primarily been artistic in nature. Artistic choices and changes never become ubiquitous (otherwise they wouldn't be artistic), so, by definition, they can't be considered absolute forward progression. That's like saying Barack Obama had the good fortune and luck (if you want to be redundant) of being elected the first black American president. Whether you like it or not, Lucas was the driving force behind all that. And he has had his hand in so many different cookie jars over the years, it is impossible to know just how far and wide his reach goes. The fact of the matter is, remove him from the equation and the current face of the industry is a lot different than it is. There isn't anyone else--save for maybe a studio person, which is impossible to know--that you can say that about. Please indicate where I said this or even implied it.