Generations deleted scenes

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies I-X' started by los2188, Sep 14, 2012.

  1. Grant

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    The full scene is simply a 15 second extension of the shot that exists in the movie as is.
    It's POV is looking in through the pod 'window' and Sulu is piloting and looking forward. Kirk is also looking forward and then looking toward Sulu as he says his line. Nobody is offscreen in the take to be making faces and in any case it didn't affect Takei's performance--he does fine.
    Whatever happened in close-ups or in other takes of the scene are not important to the take in the movie or the slight extension of the take.
    Takei and Kelley are good in the scene and Shatner is ok. It would have been fine if they left it in.
    Obviously Shatner could have done all kinds of things in other takes, but in the one that 'almost' made the movie--he didn't ruin it.
    You are correct, I'm pretty sure that once the movie was put together and they realized it was good --perhaps good enough for a sequel--they simply figured why leave in a scene that has no relavance to the plot--especially if any sequel will focus on following up on Spock's death--not Sulu having his own ship.
     
  2. Rarewolf

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    Or it could be simply that's what he was told by Nick Meyer, when asked after he didn't see it at the premiere. Its unlikely George would have have access to the workprint, and if Nick was lying, that would be a good reason to leave it off a directors cut that George would hear about!
     
  3. Oso Blanco

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    They could have left the scene in regardless ... after Sulu went renegade in TSFS, they would have had the perfect excuse for NOT giving him his own ship after all.
     
  4. Grant

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    Very true, but they didn't have the trek 3 script at the time of the release of Trek 2, so they couldn't have known how it would play out.

    But that's the very excuse they used in the Trek 3 novel--that Sulu couldn't take command until the whole Genesis situation had blown over.

    Personally I would have left in the scene simply because they promised him it would be in there. One line of Dialogue in any sequel would have taken care of why he didn't take command on schedule.
     
  5. Therin of Andor

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    They also promised him a "moment" in ST III, flipping the guard - and in ST IV, meeting his great great grandfather (a small child) in the 20th century. Well, at least Sulu got to flip the guard.
     
  6. Grant

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    Yep. The guard was played by the same actor who Spock nerve-pinched in TMP.
    Man, he could not get away from the Enterprise crews abuse no matter how hard he tried! :lol:
     
  7. wahwahkits

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    ^^ I never knew that about the guard - you learn something every day!!
     
  8. Grant

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    Another, i think, little known fact..........

    Tood bryant who played 'Klaa' in Trek5 and Klaa as the 'translator' in Trek 6---also played the blond guy standing next to Preston in the engine room inspection in TWOK (non-speaking part of course.)
     
  9. wahwahkits

    wahwahkits Commander Red Shirt

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    Never knew that either!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. Oso Blanco

    Oso Blanco Commodore Commodore

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    I didn't even know that he was in TUC!
     
  11. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Admiral

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    Yep. It was a favourite trivia question back in my ST club days. Gary Faga.
     

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