Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Enterprise is Great, Dec 4, 2013.
That would make one heck of a biopic.
Wow. This debate has gotten really stupid.
It didn't exactly start out as a MENSA meeting, either.
You do realize that people can change their weight right? All it takes is some training and a diet and you can gain quite a bit of muscle. If they were filming next week, sure her weight would be an issue, but they don't appear to even have a date set yet, so she's got quite a while to get working on gaining muscle.
And as for the height thing, I don't really see where it matters. If it's an intimidation thing, then height really doesn't have to factor into that. My sister is only 5'2 and she can be pretty intimidating.
Well I've never seen Wonder Woman drawn with mucsular arms and cetainly not the arms of a body builder. And it's not like Antje Traue is a large woman either and she certainly had a good fight with Supeman in Man Of Steel.
Who said she should be a body builder? I've said several times that she shouldn't be. But, you can have a stronger build and not be a body builder. the choices aren't just supermodel scrawny or creepy body builder when it comes to WW.
This debate over her body is a bunch of horse shit.
Comapre Christian Bale in the 2004 Machinist to his 2005 appearance in Batman Begins
Chris Pratt before he was cast for Guardians of the Galaxy and what he looks like now.
Chris Hemsworth before and after Thor 2011
Body image is not set in stone. It can change. That's what personal trainers are for.
With how the New 52 WW is drawn. It won't take much for Gal to bulk up a little to make a believable WW.
I saw a sitcom once, no idea what it was, and I'm quoting verbatim... "Wow! I always thought that I was a bitch, but it turns out that I was just Hungry."
Yeah, because those are all similar situations . Except that most of those were actors bulking up for a leading role, not a scrawny model playing a minor character in a superhero movie. She is a living twig, her body isn't going to change enough. She would need to almost double her body size without going all creepy body builder, and put on 4-6 inches of height. Plus, the more I see of her in clips, the more I'm starting to think she's not a very good actress. Then again, her biggest role is eye candy in a mediocre car racing franchise, but she's not exactly making me think she's a particularly good actress with her current work. I see no evidence that she's not just a cheap actress who was brought in for her cheapness and moderate attractiveness, or that she could possibly be a good WW, physically or acting wise.
They aren't just similar, they are the same situation, actors shaping up for a role. How do you know the extent of the role she's going to play in the film? How do you know how she can and will prepare for the role? You are spouting one baseless assertion after another, none of which holds up to the least scrutiny.
How could some skinny actress like this build up some mass?
Oh yeah, she did.
And she was kick ass.
Get your eyes checked.
You realize you're being incredibly insulting?
I bet she could take Kirky here in a fight currently, let alone after several months of hard core training.
how do you know that Wonder Woman will be a minor character in this film?
Well, they didn't announce it as "Batman Vs. Superman & Wonder Woman"...
It's a rom/com. Turns out the reason Bats and Supes will be fighting is to see who gets WW.
^ I wouldn't mind something like that.
This Means Justice League: War
Oh, yes, because she's totally going to get paid the same as Ben Affleck, because that's how movies work. All actors get the same amount of money
Money wise, it will go Affleck, Cavil, Amy Adams, probably the villain (who might get more than adams, depending on wqho it is), then probably a bunch of people before getting to Gadot. Until the title gets reannounced as SM vs BM vs WW, I'm pretty sure she's not going to be more than a minor character (or maybe a supporting character if Goyer decides he really likes writing WW).
Also, I'm not trying to insult Gadot, I'm just stating what I see. She's too small, and her previous F&F stuff seems to be purely eye candy junk thats in most action movies. Heck, even the wikipedia description of her character in F&F is just generic attractive female character stuff. The first clip I saw of her on youtube when she was first announced as WW? It was from one of her F&F scenes, and she literally brags about using her attractiveness to get what she wants (which I think is fingerprints from some guy, I don't know why) as she goes over and basically is just eye candy to get what she wants from the guy. It did not leave a good first impression. Before she started getting into movies, she was literally a model. WW needs a bulkier athletic type person, not someone who probably weighs less than your average 13 year old boy. I can literally see her ribs in several images. Thats too skinny for really any super heroine in a live action movie, but for WW that's especially small.
I also want to add that the Sarah Conner comparison was weird. Hamilton was ok in T2, but even bulked up body wise she still wasn't near WW size, and while she's shorter I think she wasn't as skinny as Gadot, even in the original Terminator (although I will admit Hamilton was horrible in that movie, mostly because of bad writing but still she's why I've never gotten through T1, and she was much better in T2). Besides, hamilton wasn't trying to be a superhero, she was supposed to be a woman who was just kind of bulking up. Honestly it never made much sense. Everyone thought she was so insane they put her in a mental institution, kept her restrained and would sedate her, yet they let her exercise and get stronger? She probably should have been less fit than in T1 by the time T2 started. I didn't know mental institutions had body building programs.
Anyway, this is getting ridiculous. Gadot is just one person cast in an almost certainly mediocre (or worse) movie. WW will suck in this even if she was played by a good actress who looked the part because of the writing. Seriously, while he generally sucks even in his few good movies Goyer has never written a particularly good female character, although I guess the woman in Blade Trinity wasn't horrible. I've said all I can say on the subject of gadot's casting. Its a horrible choice, and she'll never work as WW. But, it doesn't matter. People will pay a lot of money to see what Goyer has sh*t out, and I'm sure this will make money. I'll stick with superhero movies that make money but are actually well written and well made from a company that actually cares about the characters (aka every movie Marvel itself has made, not counting the various FOX/Sony/etc movies). Goadot is just a problem in a movie/company filled to the brim with them.
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