Fate of Orcs in LOTR

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  1. EmoBorg

    EmoBorg Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I was wondering what happened to the Orcs after the one ring was destroyed and Sauron defeated. Is there any source material that covers this? Were they put in reservations camps like in the events leading up to Warcraft III or were they hunted down and made extinct by Men and Dwarves.
     
  2. mickmike

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    I'm pretty sure I remember reading that with Sauron destroyed, the Orcs and Trolls literally became mindless. Without Sauron to control them the Orcs and Trolls lost any ability to organise themselves . It's possible some managed to make their way far east and hide there, but for the most part they were eventually hunted down and killed.

    Tolkien toyed with the idea of writing a sequel to LOTR called 'The New Shadow' which would have involved people starting some type of orc cult. However Tolkien only wrote 13 pages before quickly abandoning it.
     
  3. Mr Light

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    I believe the ROTK Appendices mention Aragorn ceeding the land of Mordor to the Orcs / evil humans as long as they remained demilitarized and didn't cross the border.
     
  4. Klaus

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    RotK, "The Field of Cormallen"
     
  5. Relayer1

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    Orcburgers...
     
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    and barbecued Orc-ribs and fried Orc-loin sandwiches.
     
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    Much like William Shatner, they were typecast and found it very difficult to get any work.

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  8. 2takesfrakes

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    Whilst I find this discussion fascinating, I was wondering:
    Can any of you RINGERS recommend a decent LOTR Forum?
    Thanks, alot!
     
  9. EmoBorg

    EmoBorg Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Orcs are like the fantasy world's ultimate villainous race.
     
  10. HIjol

    HIjol Admiral and Consummate Peacemaker Premium Member

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    ...with that sassy Sauron Sauce!...fer dippin'...Mmm mmm and ooo wheee, thems good eatin' :drool:

    "One Ring to Fry Them All"

    ...we deliver...call our Hobbiton Location! :rofl:
     
  11. Ancient Mariner

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    Have you not been to theonering.net? The folks there are generally quite knowledgeable about Tolkien.
     
  12. 2takesfrakes

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    Thanks Ancient Mariner! I was not only unaware of theonering.net, but of any LOTR sites, honestly. I've never read the books - not one. In fact, I didn't even start watching the movies until late in '05, or so.

    I only got into it that much in a very roundabout way, because of my being an artist, actually. I am interested in Art Nouveau and through conversations about that and, in particular, its resurgence in the Sixties, LOTR was somehow thrown into the mix as having a huge influence over the Hippie Movement. That really compelled me to look into the LOTR, but only superficially. That Tolkien's work could've - especially indirectly - been almost singlehandedly responsible for an entire generation's statement as to what they were about and how that, in turn, found itself reflected in the art of the period was something I wasn't about to just gloss over.

    As far as the movies proper go, I found them to be absolutely stunning, visually. "Enchanting" comes to mind, as how I would describe it. And I did fall in love with Éowyn - I could not help myself! She was very charming and I was disappointed that she didn't get with Aragorn, as the movie seemed to suggest she was going to. But my interest in LOTR didn't go that far. Until recently, because of a documentary called "RINGERS," I believe, I wasn't particularly interested in the modern-day fan perspective. But this project brushed on so many aspects that intrigued me, that I have to admit, I find myself being charmed by the love the fans have for LOTR. How TREKKIE-like they are, in their own way. So, anyway ... there it is.
     
  13. Ancient Mariner

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    In that case, enjoy the site! And, if I'm not mistaken, that documentary originated with some of the people at TORn.
     
  14. 2takesfrakes

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    Small favour's greatly received! Yes! This is the very documentary of which I speak. It's interesting how this fairy tale about Wizards and ... and so forth ... can capture the imagination of people whose daily lives would seem beyond mythical to any of these characters in Lord of the Rings. And yet, there's still some part of these RINGERS that wants to believe in Magic, the way ancient peoples might have. The escapism that fantasy offers is at least as interesting as the genre, in my opinion. And when I come across explorations into that, such as the documentary we have here, I'm right there along with them, popcorn and all ... Thanks again, for the link(s).