Farscape - anything I need to know?

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  1. The Borg Queen

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    Ben Browder's moron of a character ruined the series for me.

    And almost every episode is about him him him regardless of if he's even relevant to the story.

    Farscape is like "The John Crichton Show" with supporting extras rather than being about the whole group of them.
     
  2. Herkimer Jitty

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    Now that's a sitcom I'd actually watch.
     
  3. RoJoHen

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    Um...it's because he's the main character.

    That said, every single character had excellent story arcs and was just as complex as Crichton. Just because you didn't like him as a character doesn't negate that fact.
     
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    S1 was pretty bad at first but the final five were great. S2's first half was half great half crap but the back half was classic. S3 was consistently amazing. S4's first half was a little rough but the back half was classic. PKW was a good ending.
     
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    ^The episodes can vary a lot in quality. I watched the pilot and wasn't too impressed. A year later I tuned in again, only to see "Taking the Stone", which would've been the end of my Farscape days, if not stumbling across "Die Me Dichotomy" later that year. That episode drew me in completely and the show didn't let me go from that point onwards.
     
  6. The Borgified Corpse

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    It wasn't just the needles in the eye stuff. I also couldn't fathom why everyone, even Zhaan, was being so cruel to Pilot.
     
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    It struck me that way initially, too - the human always saved the day, seemed to know better than everyone else etc. The more I watched, though, the more that impression diminished. Every character had a story and every character's story was addressed. Clearly you see it differently and that's fine. As I said earlier Farscape, like every show but perhaps slightly more than most, isn't for everyone.

    It didn't appeal to me, either (to say the least), but they were desperate people who more than anything wanted to get home. That degree of desperation to make something happen can lead people to do things they otherwise wouldn't consider. It doesn't excuse their behaviour but it does explain it, at least in part.

    We saw how far they were capable of going. These are not nice, fluffy people. They are flawed and dark and they screw up badly. We also saw their contrition. They did wrong and they owned up to it. I like that in people - even fictional ones. :bolian:
     
  8. lvsxy808

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    Really? I never saw it that way. In fact to me it was the opposite - most of the time everyone else ignored the stupid hooman and considered him beneath their notice. At least in the beginning, until he was able to prove himself to them.
     
  9. The Borg Queen

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    Even when they split the cast in half and two separate story arcs, they contrived a way to have "The John Crichton Show" not lose it's ME ME ME main character for either storyline.

    And this country hick astronaut from some backwater planet pretending to be a Peacekeeper commander superior to the REAL Peacekeeper soldier in a few episodes? :rolleyes: Lame.
     
  10. RoJoHen

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    Got it. You don't like it.

    But if that's true, why did you make it all the way to Season 3?
     
  11. The Borg Queen

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    Because I like Zhaan, and Chiana, and Sikozu. :D
     
  12. Harvey

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    So, a character who departs by early season three, a character who isn't introduced until the end of season one, and a character who isn't introduced until the beginning of the final season?
     
  13. DWF

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    Chricton even saved the day in the pilot ep. so no he was saving the day from day one.
     
  14. RoJoHen

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    Yeah, I am wondering the same thing.
     
  15. The Borg Queen

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    What? I love both Kes and Seven of Nine from Voyager, too. What's your point?
     
  16. RoJoHen

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    But did other characters make you hate Voyager the way Crichton seems to have made you hate Farscape?
     
  17. The Borg Queen

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    Oh I don't hate Farscape, just Ben Browder's character.
     
  18. species5618

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    So far I really like the Crichton character--wow, you must have hated season 3, what with the whole...


    two John Crichtons for over half of season 3 thing...




    I'm just starting season 4 and it looks like I'm on track to watch the entire series plus the Peacekeeper Wars in little more than a month, by far the fastest I've ever gone through a series (taking into account the 88 episode total versus other series).

    I think I like this show quite a bit.
     
  19. The Borg Queen

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    I did. It felt so incredibly contrived, almost as if Ben Browder had a hissy Diva fit and stomped his feet until they let him be the star all over again.
     
  20. Harvey

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    Almost as if Crichton was the central character, contractually obligated to be in every episode, as well as being the audience POV character who narrates the opening titles in every episode outside of the premiere.