Fantastic Four reboot-- Casting, Rumors, Pix, ect;

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Turtletrekker, Dec 8, 2012.

  1. JD

    JD Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Location:
    Arizona, USA
    I like it. If this is the final color and everything, I'm not that worried. They change a lot of stuff for movies, so try to worry about stuff like that. I don't really see this being any different than the Batsuits in not being grey or blue in most of the movie, or the X-Men wearing black leather.
     
  2. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    Heck, the orange was probably just the closest they could come to brown using the limited color palette of early comics. Just like Batman's "blue" cape was originally supposed to be a black cape with blue used to represent its highlights (much like characters meant to be black-haired were often shown with blue hair).

    Then again, Kirby originally intended the Thing to be scaly, not rocky. The rocky texture came from later artists' interpretations. So maybe he was meant to be orange.
     
  3. the G-man

    the G-man Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2010
    Location:
    to your immediate right
    Actually, Kirby himself switched to drawing the Thing with the rocky texture fairly early in the character's development IIRC. And didn't Kirby draw the book for approximately 100 issues, most of which featured the rocky thing
     
  4. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2010/03/25/comic-book-legends-revealed-253/

    Then when Joe Sinnott took over as inker and basically created the modern look for the Thing, Kirby eventually changed the way he pencilled the character to match.

    So it wasn't Kirby who switched the look at first, it was his inkers, redrawing his rounded "dinosaur scales" into angular "rock plates," as shown in the images in the linked article. But it was a little while longer before Kirby actually changed the way he drew the character.

    Just goes to show how important inkers are to the process.
     
  5. Doctorwhovian

    Doctorwhovian Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    May 31, 2014
    I wonder if they had that in mind when the Thing was briefly redesigned/mutated in the 80s. He had some Dinosaur-like characteristics with that new look. Joe Sinnott inked those issues, oddly enough. This was also the era of the "She-Thing"-Sharon Ventura (Mrs. Marvel II) transformed into a Thing as well.
     
  6. TREK_GOD_1

    TREK_GOD_1 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    May 24, 2006
    Location:
    Escaped from Delta Vega
    Long before the Thing, comics had no problem coloring anything brown. From skin color, to hamburger buns to dirt, the various tones under the category of brown was possible.
     
  7. TREK_GOD_1

    TREK_GOD_1 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    May 24, 2006
    Location:
    Escaped from Delta Vega
    Probably.
     
  8. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2003
    Location:
    RJDiogenes of Boston
    What they did there was make the changes in art part of the story-- basically, they were saying that Ben underwent an initially rough transformation that became more refined over time. His appearance evolved as his body adapted to the change. Then when it happened to Sharon, she went through the same process.
     
  9. Doctorwhovian

    Doctorwhovian Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    May 31, 2014
    Yeah, there was also a change during the Bryne era from rocky thing to muddy thing as well for a few issues. (Although Stegosaurus/Ankylosaurus Thing appeared in the Steve Englehart/Kevin Pollard/Joe Sinnot issues and in a few Simonsons).
     
  10. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Clean Old Mod Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2002
    Location:
    Somewhere in Connecticut
    Indeed, in the first issue the Thing's trunks were colored brown. Color reprints tend to retcon them blue, though the blue uniforms wouldn't be established until #3.
     
  11. Captaindemotion

    Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 26, 2001
    Location:
    Ireland
    http://www.slashfilm.com/fantastic-four-cast-photo-twitter/

    Well, that was quick. Filming has ended on this shoot and Kate Mara posted a selfie of herself and the other 3 (not in costume, before you get excited) to mark it.

    Other than the purported Thing pic (which I think was real, as other pages reported being asked to take it down), there hasn't been a peep from the makers of this film during the shoot. This could be interpreted as Abrams-like secrecy but, as the link I posted suggests, it's odd, particularly given that comic-con was last week. Given the negative buzz that seems to be circling the movie (I could be wrong but from what I've seen on other sites and pages, the mostly negative response on this thread is fairly representative of a lot of fan attitude, while Marvel are apparently doing little to publicise the FF in the comic world), one would've thought it might've been a good move to release a pic of them in character and maybe silence the critics.

    Maybe Fox is holding back its marketing of the film but am I the only one wondering if eyre preparing to let it die?
     
  12. Alidar Jarok

    Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Location:
    Norfolk, VA
    If they're done filming, they're clearly not prepared to let it die. It would make no sense. They could at least release the film, protect their rights, and sell it back to Marvel (as opposed to stopping the film, losing their rights, and having it revert back to Marvel free of charge). If I'm lucky enough to find the link I'll post it, but Marvel has flat out denied sabotaging their comics with the hopes of hurting Fox and getting their rights back.

    But I agree with your greater point that it's surprising they finished filming so quickly and twice as surprising that they didn't have anything for SDCC if they were that close to finishing.
     
  13. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
  14. Alidar Jarok

    Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Location:
    Norfolk, VA
    I could link to the released film with the same quote, though. My point is they're not going to pretend to film a movie. They're either going to film it or not film it.
     
  15. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    Google can't find pictures of Kate Mara in her invisible girl outfit.

    She may have the body of a 9 year old boy, but I like cosplay.

    Something wiggy is going on.

    Meanwhile can you imagine the new movie's costume designer going into a radical excitation as he, or she finally put their work to rest because they saw the new reboot of the comic (6 months ago) where the new fantastic four costumes were "RED" and black instead of blue and black?
     
  16. Mr Light

    Mr Light Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 1999
    Location:
    Pennsylvania
    How the hell did they film an entire movie without a single spy shot?!

    I can only assume this was shot entirely on sound stages.

    Which doesn't bode well for the realism and scale of the film....
     
  17. Alidar Jarok

    Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Location:
    Norfolk, VA
    As of a couple of weeks ago, Kate Mara had not seen a Fantastic Four costume in the film. Now that filming is done, I think it's safe to say there are no uniforms or they appear only at the end. I'm OK with that since the Fantastic Four didn't start with uniforms either.
     
  18. Captaindemotion

    Captaindemotion Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 26, 2001
    Location:
    Ireland

    Maybe 'die' was the wrong word. I'm not suggesting that Fox won't release the film. But does it perhaps look like they have no faith in it being a successful franchise and aren't going to waste time and money promoting it?

    Maybe they have a strategy re its promotion and are going to play a long game. But considering that we've seen pics from Batman v Superman already or compared to the promotion which some of Fox's X-Men verse films got well in advance, this does seem at best to be an extremely muted promotional strategy.
     
  19. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2000
    Location:
    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    It can't be worse than Rise of the Silver Surfer.

    Bite the ####ing bullet already.
     
  20. Alidar Jarok

    Alidar Jarok Everything in moderation but moderation Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2003
    Location:
    Norfolk, VA
    Don't get me wrong, I get the feeling the movie will feel "small." The fast filming just seems like it doesn't have a wide scope or lots of set pieces and locations.