Fantastic Four reboot-- Casting, Rumors, Pix, ect;

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  1. stj

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    Black men being more bad ass than white men may be more positive but it still blurs into stereotyping. You want to get bold, cast Reed Richards with a Black actor. Then gypsy Doom's fellow non-white positive feelings Reed can clash with his gypsies are white feelings. Also, we have a built-in explanation of why Reed is so go-it-alone and driven. And casting Ben Grimm as a homey follows naturally.

    Also, part of the Torch's original character is not being very smart or at least, being very inexperienced. Making him so badass in some respects is revisionist, to no good purporse. If he's so badass, why's he hanging with his older sister?
     
  2. JoeZhang

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    Ben's back-story has never really sat well with how he has been written over the years - I can understand that it was to contrast him with Reed but a Test Pilot and Astronaut who is that dumb*? doubtful.


    * to be fair, a few writers have highlighted this now and again.
     
  3. JoeZhang

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    Have you read the Daniel Way's Nighthawk series from a few years ago? It does not try to hit the fact that is a What if Bruce Wayne was black series.
     
  4. stj

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    ^^^Sorry, haven't read any comics since the Seventies.
     
  5. Dr.H

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    Ben Grimm would be a black athletic jock football player from detroit who was High school mates with the nerdy white guy that is Reed Richards who Grimm protected from bullies.

    Did i GO TOO FAR?
     
  6. stj

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    ^^^Of course not. Having Black athlete Ben and skinny nerd Reed be gay lovers would be going to far though.:lol:
     
  7. JoeZhang

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    Well then this will not spoil you - his parents are killed by racists and at the end when he is confronted by the joker, he basically says "who do you think you are fucking with" and kills him.
     
  8. RJDiogenes

    RJDiogenes Idealistic Cynic and Canon Champion Premium Member

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    Ben Grimm is actually very intelligent. He plays at being dumb because of his background and because of his low self-esteem. His low self-esteem is what always prevented him from being able to change back and forth like the others can.
     
  9. suarezguy

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    A white actor did play the (partly) Hispanic character Bane in The Dark Knight Rises.
    I prefer that the characters do look close to the comic book depiction (to the point of even disliking a little that non-blonde Chris Evans played Johnny Storm and Steve Rogers, although he was good as the former and OK as the latter) but the quality of the writing and acting are much more important.
     
  10. Venardhi

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    More importantly, the wealthy parents is part of Batman's origin story. It is a key component of who he is. Sue and Johnny's parents aren't even a blip on the radar in comparison.
     
  11. Nerys Myk

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    Bane's father in the comics was British. Tom Hardy is British. Not seeing the problem.

    Evans is a blond, just not a primary color yellow blond like you see in the comics.
     
  12. suarezguy

    suarezguy Commodore Commodore

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    Not a problem but a partial change-in a direction some consider to be unlikely.
     
  13. Turtletrekker

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    OT-- Nothing to do with the current production, but rather the "lost" Roger Corman movie.

    DOOMED: The Untold Story of Roger Corman’s THE FANTASTIC FOUR will be a documentary chronicling the history of the first attempt to bring the FF to the big screen.

    Having seen the original movie I will say two things-- I can understand why it was never released, and I still liked it better than the big-screen monstrosities that we got. I will check this out for sure.
     
  14. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk The Real Me Premium Member

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    Not sure what you mean. What is unlikely?
     
  15. Savage Dragon

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    I remember at the time of filming Bullpen Bulletins (I think) would always have updates on the production and I was really excited to see it but then it never materialized. To this day I still haven't seen it. Of course now we know it was just made to retain the film rights but I'm sure all will be revealed in the documentary. Should be interesting!
     
  16. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    I remember Stan Lee writing about the Dolph Lundgren Punisher and Matt Salinger Captain America prior to their release as movies that were going to be spectacular. :lol:

    Th whole thing is on YouTube.

    That was the rumor for years, but I think it turned out to be incorrect.
     
  17. gblews

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    Seriously? The Corman movie was a piece of utter crap, IMO. I always assume that folks who say they like it better than the recent FF movies are simply registering their distaste for the Tim Story directed movies.

    The Story FF movies weren't great super hero movies but if you focused on Johnny and the Thing you could get some enjoyment out of them. The Corman FF was insanely unwatchable.
     
  18. Dream

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    He is a Marvel cheerleader, of course he will be saying great things about them even if the movies turn out to be awful. I only hope he was happy when the actually GOOD movies started being released like X Men, Spider Man, Iron Man and Avengers.
     
  19. Out Of My Vulcan Mind

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    I know, but the level of his exuberance can still be amusing when the product is so lacking.
     
  20. Venardhi

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    He is either one of the most enthusiastic people that ever lived, or a complete whore for a paycheck. I still haven't figured it out.