Falling Skies Season 4 discussion thread - Spoilers

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Jedi_Master, Jun 18, 2014.

  1. Procutus

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    Funny, that was my thought as well when he was out on his motorcycle escapade.

    Yeah, that was a bit weird. On one hand, we have an Escape from New York type of prison camp; then we have kids in an alien Nazi brainwashing training center and finally, a group of touchy-feely, Namaste beatniks.

    Not quite what I expected from this new season, but I will say that David Eick certainly isn't afraid to take chances. I'm curious to see where this will go, but I hope that they don't write themselves into a corner, then the show gets cancelled without a satisfying resolution.
     
  2. Sindatur

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    I don't have a problem with Flashbacks being woven in (LOST, Time period change depicted with "WHOOSH" sound) or Multiple Universes (Charlie Jade with Universe changes being depicted by filter color at first, and then "X Universe" being displayed. Various Star Trek's with various visual cues) or multiple time lines (Babylon 5 Babylon Squared and War Without End or various Star Trek with various visual cues).

    And yes, we did see "4 Months Later", but, I couldn't get my berrings compared to where we left off and what's happening in between then and the end of the episode (I believe it's a good 8 months to a year later by end of episode, compared to end of S3). I'm just not sure how or where to put everything together? (Charlie Jade actually did this, took about 5 episodes before I became comfortable with my understanding of what I was being shown).

    I hope after more episodes, it's easier to follow, and we firm up the base we are moving forward from a bit better.

    I don't know, maybe it's the 2 glasses of Wine that are confusing me :shrug: will watch it again tomorrow with hindsight, to see if it flows better
     
  3. jclark14

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    I liked the 'Librarian' movies.
     
  4. ReedEnterprise

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    Maybe being the first episode back, but I wasn't crazy about it. I will continue to watch because the first few episodes of a new season always disappoints me. I know it will get better. But it's all so desolate. And the characters aren't acting the right way. Only Tom and his kids.
     
  5. Sindatur

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    If David Eick is a Cylon, or at least learned from them, HE HAS A PLAN!!! :)
     
  6. RJDiogenes

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    Well, the Star-Child and the youth camp are way too V. They even had somebody spray painting a Night Rider icon on the wall, just like they used to spray "V" on V. I just hope they do something with the Love Cult other than portray peaceniks as naive tools.

    Other than that, there's nothing more egregious than in past seasons-- this is Irwin Allen for the 21st Century, after all. I loved Tom keeping himself sane by writing out documents from American history, all the while making secret maps and sneaking out for Pulp adventures at night. Weaver was off his rocker for a while, but seems to be getting it together. Pope's character evolution has been reset, but that's okay, since he makes such a good asshole. And meanwhile, Anne has taken over the 2nd Mass and is apparently not easy to work for.

    We'll see....
     
  7. Velocity

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    Fighting against an alien invasion has been a fun ride, but this Lexy part is just a little hard for me to go with. The aliens have always targeted the human children, so the brainwashing isn't too difficult to follow, but Lexy has such characteristics that make me unable to buy into her at all. The accelerated growth, her precognition (or being tuned into the alien minds) and other stuff just doesn't engage me.
     
  8. Guy Gardener

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    Either she is an accident, a mistake or there is a third party at work.

    It's just a question of is she is receiving orders, subconsciously receiving orders, or they wound up her embryo and let it go, with the best of intentions and a grain of salt.
     
  9. JD

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    This was kind of a weird season premier. I can see where they built of off last season, but at the same time the changes were so drastic that it almost felt like a whole new show. I did enjoy it, and I am very curious where they are going now, but it was still a little weird actually watching it.
    Tom's sudden dirtbike skills were a major WTF moment. The whole brainwashing kids thing seemed like a weird change at first, but I guess it makes sense that after the humans figured out how to remove the harnesses the Espheni would change tactics, and this is one that makes sense with their goals.
    I'm not quite sure what to make of the storyline with Lexi and her followers. I am glad that she doesn't appear to be working for the Espheni, but other than that the storyline was kind of meh. I'm not really sure what it was about it, but it just didn't really work for me.
     
  10. Mr Pointy Ears

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    I'm looking forward to seeing S4 when it start here in Australia on Thursday night(26 june).
     
  11. gblews

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    Yes, when I read here that David Eick is the new showrunner it fit in perfectly with my feeings while watching the premiere; that it reminded me of the New Caprica episodes on BSG.

    The humans imprisoned by the Aspheni who are trying to change the humans' perception of them and their occupation. We are shown the humans reaction to one another under captivity, the remainder of the human group out there planning a rescue, the kids kind of playing the roles of the Cylon's human "police" force -- all very BSG-ish.

    I loved those New Caprica episodes but the cast of BSG was MUCH better than that of F.S. so I'm not expecting anything great, just hopefully a shade better than what we've seen in prior seasons. I'm hoping they ramp up the drama and the show darkens some.
     
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    I wonder how Anne will take Lexi's new growth.....
     
  13. Aragorn

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    Finally got around to watching this and I have to say it was as bad as people were saying.
     
  14. JD

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    If the previews are anything to go by, it looks like we'll get to find out in the next episode. I'm pretty sure I saw them together, or at least heard Anne talking to Lexi.
     
  15. bigdaddy

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    You sure the preview wasn't "This season on Falling Skies" and not then normal "Next week..."?
     
  16. Jedi_Master

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    Lexi's arc was the weakest. The concept is goofy, the character interactions were strange (particularly the forced ogling/T and A moments with Ben and Maggie) and it just feels like some big hallucination.

    The Nazi school for kids was actually not terrible, and makes some sense considering the Espheni know that harnessing severely reduces human lifespans.

    I like the ghetto concept, and I have always enjoyed how the Espheni have been willing to make significant changes in tactics, especially in light of their larger war with the Vohm.

    Noah Wyle is amazing, and I am happy to see Tom, Dan, and Ann back in the dirty, gritty fight every day routine.

    I am hopeful for this season, but please, please, please can we get to a goal, resolution or plot progress before half the season is over this year?
     
  17. Scroogourner

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    We have a goal - to destroy the new power source. Nearly the same goal as last season.
     
  18. bigdaddy

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    It's not nearly the same goal, it is the same goal. :lol:
     
  19. Noname Given

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    Well, as long as they don't have a scene with hot air balloons dumping red dust into the air sending the aliens packing, I'll keep watching, but IMO the series lost a lot of what I initially liked about it after Season 2. YMMV.
     
  20. Jedi_Master

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    Oops, you weren't supposed to notice that, so now we have to surround you and blow our whistles.