Enterprise Interiors - Set Usage

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  1. ZapBrannigan

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    I've got you covered. :)

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  2. Mytran

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    Thanks, there's my old digs! ;)
     
  3. Robert Comsol

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    As a side detail no harm in mentioning that in the actual episode they put a chair instead of a bed behind the room divider.

    Probably it was too much of an unnecessary hazzle to put a bed behind the room divider, you wouldn't see in the final episode.

    I think what we saw here would have become the alternate "interior circle" crew cabin which was eventually abandoned on behalf of sickbay.

    According to the original script, Charlie's cabin was located on Main Deck 5.

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  4. Mytran

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    You mean that dark splotch behind the grill? Could be the back of a chair I suppose. I can certainly understand why no-one on set would consider it neccessary to drag a bed in there though, that area is 95% obscured by the grill!

    It seems roomier than Kirk's cabin too. Farewell, room.
     
  5. Robert Comsol

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    Another possible reason why they gave the set up. But as a cabin for two people sharing it (e.g. Anton and Lenore Karidian) the size seemed okay for me.

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    That was the Jefferies Tube set. They just cut it in half and added a section in the middle to make it wider.
     
  7. BillJ

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    I thought the modification they made in "That Which Survives" was pretty cool! :techman:
     
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    It was also on its side, in a room that itself had minimal redressing.
     
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    This sketch used to fascinate me in my youth. One thing I can't believe I never noticed (till now) is the area I've circled here. I don't recall a door at the rear of the transporter room. And why does the room seem to jut out a bit 'into' the corridor?

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  10. Christopher

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    Comparing that to the other set blueprints I have, it looks like that part of the set could be redressed considerably from episode to episode. The protrusion you show there is too narrow to be a door (compare it to the other doors) -- it looks more like the screen Scotty tracked Gary Seven on in "Assignment: Earth." But I have blueprints showing an actual door in the corridor there, albeit not intended to be connected to the transporter room; in fact, they show that the rear part of the transporter room set was often used as an alternate turbolift car location for corridor scenes. In those blueprints, the extension of the transporter room isn't there.

    By the same token, I suppose that if they needed to feature that extension of the transporter room (which I think was added for season 2), they'd remove the corridor wall to accommodate it, and then take it down again for shooting in the corridor. Since that diagram is meant to be a generic plan, it shows the two sets overlapping in a way they didn't normally do.
     
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    I'd say Christopher is largely right, but the jutting part that looks like a little door (center of red cirlce) might be the food dispenser. It appeared conveniently in "Tomorrow is Yesterday" for chicken soup and was re-used a few eps later in "This Side of Paradise" for Spock to punch a hole in.

    The view screen used in "Assignment: Earth" and "The Tholian Web" would be over the control panel at 2 o'clock on the red circle.

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  12. Christopher

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    ^No, the screen in "Assignment: Earth" was opposite the control panel, on the wall behind Scotty.

    http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/thumbnails.php?album=57&page=34

    As for the food slots, they're much closer to the transporter console, presumably on a wild wall in front of where that alcove would be. Clearly that part of the transporter room was reconfigured many times, and only later episodes featured that alcove -- which is why it juts into the corridor space, because it wasn't part of the original design.
     
  13. ZapBrannigan

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    I see. Maybe the Transporter console was moved back somewhat compared to what we see in the floor plan. Or maybe the center-of-circle item is altogether unrelated to the fast food industry.

    It's funny how some sets are always the same (unless they are redressed as another ship), while the Transporter room and Engineering are practially made-to-order for any given story.

    The monitor moved one wall segment to the right in "Tholian."

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  14. Christopher

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    Of course, it's easy enough to assume they're using different transporter rooms around the ship. Although the fact that they only ever mention "the transporter room" in dialogue kind of works against that.
     
  15. Mytran

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    Or that most T-Rooms are in a constant state of repair (those 23rd Century energizer coils burn out like you won't believe) and the one they refer to in any given episode is just the one which happens to be operational at the time.

    The whole Transporter Room itself underwent a bit of a redress between Season 1 &2 in any case, which is when the whole corridor intrusive scanner station first appeared.
     
  16. Christopher

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    It just struck me as appropriate that the place they decided to put the extra turbolift car -- a form of transportation -- was in the transporter room!
     
  17. LMFAOschwarz

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    Interesting thoughts, gentlemen. :)

    Though probably not likely, I suppose it's also possible that the drawing is simply wrong. It's not like it's a detailed construction blueprint..it's possible a simple wrong measurement when drawing in the transporter room led to an "oops" moment when it smashed into the corridor. I've done a few similar things in my day! :)
     
  18. Christopher

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    ^But the actual working blueprints I have show that the corridor walls there were wild, that the set was designed to be reconfigured as needed -- e.g. sticking a turbolift car in the middle of the transporter room set when shooting a corridor scene. And those walls would probably have had to be removed anyway for shooting a transporter room scene from the operator's POV or over his shoulder. So it makes perfect sense that it could go the other way, just take down the corridor walls when they weren't needed and build some version of the transporter room's rear alcove out of additional wild wall pieces.
     
  19. feek61

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    ^^^
    Exactly correct. It was not uncommon to collapse the sets to make room for other sets. In a couple of the first season episodes; large portions of the standing sets were taking down to make room for new sets that were needed.