ENT Reference in Star Trek XI? - SPOILERS

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  1. Dick Whitman

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    Its ironic that that ENT fans are now complaining that the new incarnation of the franchise is making incorrect references to it!!

    I am a big ENT fan by the way! But this is the type of nitpicking that did about ENT all the time.
     
  2. pookha

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    it is still a reference even if it is a grandchild ect of archer.
    if it is a descendant it dosnt make the reference wrong.
    i really do like it without it being jonathan archer.
    the only reason i dont think it isnt archer is the archer was supposed to be an instructor in quantum mechanics or something like that.

    i suspect the novelization will have more.

    and that there may be more then one delta vega..
    no big deal..
    has happened before.

    i actually like delta vega summer and delta vega winter to keep them apart.
     
  3. euphorik

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    shortly before spock beams down to vulcan, he says something to the effect of the katric ark being the repository of vulcan identity & culture, and that his parents are there...went kinda fast, but he definitely says "katric ark" - !! :techman:
     
  4. commodore64

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    Yuppers. I think it's appropriate for them to mention the captain of the Enterprise and think it was him rather than a relative or something else.

    Besides, I figure if McCoy can live to a ripe old age, why not Archer?
     
  5. M

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    You are right, he does say Katric ark!
     
  6. Dick Whitman

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    Whether intentional or not the production designs in the film are very consistent with Enterprise. For example the Engine Room on this ship looks like a natural progression from of the NX -01.
     
  7. DarthPipes

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    Agreed. The line "Admiral Archer's prized beagle" leaves no doubt that is was Jonathan Archer of Enterprise.
     
  8. pookha

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    uh not if you look at scotty's dossier..
    why would jonathan archer be teaching advanced relativistic mechanics..
    sounds like a descendant to me.

    dossiers

    i knew i had read it some place...
     
  9. Dick Whitman

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    Because he's secretly a Quantum Physicist! ;)
     
  10. J Archer

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    And the audience groaned:lol:
     
  11. CommanderRaytas

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    When Bones brings Kirk to the medical bay, I think. But he does mention her, I'm absolutely sure.

    And oh, Spock says that the High Council members will be at the katric arc, and that's why the Enterprise couldn't beam them out.
     
  12. SantaEddie74

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    Come to think of it...I guess this might decanonize the Archer computer bio on the TOS Defiant now, since he was supposed to have died in 2245 when the original Enterprise was launched.
     
  13. Dick Whitman

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    Another reference is using the term "Klingon Warbirds". Which was never used before Broken Bow. ENT was criticized heavily for that.
     
  14. Anwar

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    Just because it was never used before, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I mean, did they ever say "There's no such thing as a Klingon Warbird" before ENT?
     
  15. pookha

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    :lol::devil:
     
  16. commodore64

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    Thanks, I missed that one.

    Maybe he goes on a secret mission at a ripe, old age or pulls a Zephram Cochrane and disappears.
     
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    Star Trek XI ENT ref: a jab? (beware spoilers!)

    I'm not clear on just how the new film jives with ENT. I mean, the "Admiral Archer's beagle" comment was surely meant to suggest that the new film acknowledges the existence of ENT, but it does so in a rather playful and making-fun sort of way.

    Doesn't Scotty beaming (and thus, killing) Porthos (or his later-Archer-equivalent) seem to be kind of a mean thing for the writers to have done?

    I took the comment as a kind of jab at ENT in general.

    I liked a lot of ENT, don't get me wrong, but there were serious problems, and I think the new movie's quick comment was a subtle way of acknowledging those problems at the same time.
     
  18. JiNX-01

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    Re: Star Trek XI ENT ref: a jab? (beware spoilers!)

    First of all, it couldn't possibly have been Porthos unless Scotty has also been hopping around through time... And just because he "misplaced" Archer's beagle, doesn't mean it's dead. It could very well be living with a bunch of Tribbles hiding out on a Klingon garbage scow. ;)
     
  19. M

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    Re: Star Trek XI ENT ref: a jab? (beware spoilers!)

    Not a jab at all. Rather a cute little homage. I think Enterprise fans should be happy about that. I know I am. ;)
     
  20. apenpaap

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    Re: Star Trek XI ENT ref: a jab? (beware spoilers!)

    I would have preferred seeing the launching ceremony of the USS Enterprise, with a very old Archer attending, but I'll settle for this line as a homage.