DS9 on blu ray?

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine' started by borgboy, Nov 28, 2013.

  1. dub

    dub Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Okay, I'm still not sure how her award-winning appearances in OITNB would create a surge in demand for VOY (an older and completely different style of show) in HD. What I would believe is since OITNB is on Netflix anyway, some of those viewers might sample VOY on Netflix. And "some of those some of those" might watch the entire series. And a portion of those might have enough of an interest to want to watch it again in HD. So we're talking fraction of a fraction of a fraction. I don't see how that would create a demand so great that VOY would get HD treatment and DS9 would not. But hey, if I'm wrong - all the better! Perhaps a VOY in HD would cause some pressure for the studios to be completists and do the same for DS9. :)

    I do think Netflix and other streaming services are creating a new audience for some older shows. And DS9 is one that works well for binge viewing with its broad story and character arcs. I'm one of those viewers. I enjoyed TNG growing up and the TOS films. I watched VOY, and barely gave DS9 or ENT the time of day back then. I decided to give DS9 a chance on Netflix a couple of years ago and found it to be incredible. I thought it was a great show in the first season. But it really became addicting once the arcs started building. Perfect show for streaming. I wish enough viewers had a similar experience that it would create some additional demand for DS9 in HD. :sigh:
     
  2. Crisp Crinkle

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    The wave of the foreseeable future is everything being broadcast in HD. If VOY gets a rebroadcast, if anything gets a rebroadcast, long term it needs to be in HD or people will tune out in droves. It's just too annoying to have an HD TV that's grossly underutilized.
     
  3. CorporalClegg

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    Because marketing.
     
  4. MacLeod

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    Your reasoning sounds logical however we are dealing with studio execs here, they are not known for their logic.
     
  5. timtonruben359

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    I was re-reading an interview with Roger Lay Jr. on the nerdist, granted it's back from June, but his quote is interesting:

    So to me it still sounds like CBS is waiting to get more 'final' numbers on TNG sales before it decides on DS9 and the sales would dictate what sort of budget DS9 could possibly get. I'm going to look at this as a 'we won't know anything till next year for sure.'
     
  6. MacLeod

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    True, and it looks like CBS could be planning a complete season set. Which would be the sensible thing to do. But I go back to my earlier point we are dealing with studio execs they don't always do the right thing.
     
  7. timtonruben359

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    It all comes down to a business for them and the serious questions is would a DS9 or VOY HD remaster make a profit. I still feel one way or the other DS9 and VOY will eventually find their way to HD.
     
  8. Squiggy

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    What "right thing"? It's a business, not a charity. If it'll make money then they'll do it. If it won't then it won't happen.
     
  9. BillJ

    BillJ Fleet Admiral Admiral

    +1

    I'd like to see it done. But there is no "right" or "wrong". It is in the hands of the bean-counters now.
     
  10. Hober Mallow

    Hober Mallow Commodore Commodore

    Amidst all this speculation, here's a reminder of what we actually know:

     
  11. BillJ

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    +1
     
  12. Crisp Crinkle

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    S?

    ;)
     
  13. USS KG5

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    If we all stopped talking about things we don't know about, no-one would go on the Internet at all except for masturbation purposes! :p
     
  14. CorporalClegg

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    That'd be find by me.
     
  15. MacLeod

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    Right and no buisness has ever made a decision which they later regret? Sure it might seem the right decision in the short term but in the mid-long term it might not be the right decision.
     
  16. Crisp Crinkle

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    When does the window close on this decision? When does remastering no longer become possible? Under all reasonable expectation, that's a long ways off, right? We're talking years and years, yes?

    How does the realization in that timeframe that they should decide to remaster translate into a missed opportunity? Unless there's some sort of missed opportunity, there can't be any regret here, and in the absence of an immediate need waiting is the correct choice.
     
  17. SoM

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    Well, straight away Blu-ray is a struggling format. Not helped by the initial "format war" with HD DVD, it has never achieved the penetration of DVD and now never will - the longer they wait, the fewer physical sales they'll be able to muster.

    Secondly... for the sort of root-and-branch remastering TNG got - rather than simple rescanning or at worst a straightforward reassembly, which is all most shows require for a true HD remastering - there will literally never be a better time for them to do DS9, while they have all the people with experience there. Compositing film/etc is a sufficiently niche market that there probably won't be a huge advance in technology or fall in price, so doing it will just get more expensive if they need to assemble all-new teams at a later date.
     
  18. benjaminh

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    Yes. This is key. If they let the Trek dream team disband.....Well, let's just say I won't be at all optimistic if they let that happen.

    Wish Netflix or Amazon would underwrite this. Wonder if someone at CBS made them a direct pitch if they'd consider it?
     
  19. Crisp Crinkle

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    I guess the issue here is the difference between never a better time and a good time. :shrug:
     
  20. Start Wreck

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    Surely, this is irrelevant. If people are moving from physical media to streaming, there's still the same size audience. Fewer Blu-ray sales would equal more digital sales / streaming subscriptions, etc. Unless there's a revenue advantage from the sales of physical discs, the delivery method doesn't matter.

    I'm not sure this is true either. While it's true that they have a familiar and experienced team assembled right now, there's nothing to stop them from reacquiring a similar team when the need arises.
    The VFX industry is growing, not shrinking, and hardware and software is constantly getting more affordable, not less. Film scanning and remastering isn't niche! They could even come back to this in five years' time and do a 4k scan instead of 2k.