Does Voyager end up in its original universe?

Discussion in 'Voyager' started by Melakon, Apr 14, 2014.

  1. teacake

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    And now I'm watching the Benny Russell episode heh.
     
  2. iPadCary

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    lol I just saw "Relativity" today!
    The only problem I have with it is when
    VOY5 Janeway with her short hair,
    goes back to VOY1 & gives B'elanna a face-to-face order without
    B'elanna saying something like: "What happened to your hair?"
     
  3. teacake

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    You don't ask the captain about their hair. You just don't.
     
  4. Guy Gardener

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    I had always wondered about Sisko.

    If it is shaved after season 3, can you imagine Kasidy lathering up his head every morning and taking to that dome with a straight razor?

    Wifely duties?
     
  5. teacake

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    Sonic shower sonics it off on command.

    What I want in future grooming is those nails that change colour each time you touch them from Total Recall. That would be super fun.
     
  6. King Daniel Beyond

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    Not after all those expensive "Caretaker" reshoots. TPTB might insist on reshooting all of seasons 1 and 2 with her new shorter 'do.:p
     
  7. teacake

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    JUST imagine if we had 2 or 3 versions of those seasons to acquire through varying means.. and there would be hair madness and screenshots of every scene with every style and it would very good.
     
  8. lurok

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    So I just boggled my mind imagining a Living Witness/AU Voyager series.
     
  9. Guy Gardener

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    What's to Boggle?

    The EMH in Living Witness was lying.
     
  10. teacake

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    I watched the first two episodes of season 7 Buffy last night (NO SPOILERS) and I wanted to cry because it was so bad. It was like everyone had a lobotomy during the season break, the direction, the writing, the acting.. everyone is even talking at half the pace. I felt like I was having some awful lesson in Nothing Ever Lasts.
     
  11. Guy Gardener

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    It takes a while for the season to get it's shit together, and even then...

    You might want to look for a Buffy comic book series (8 issue mini series.) called "Fray".

    It's set 200 years in the future and tangentially relevant to season Seven.
     
  12. teacake

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    Oh I'll be doing all the comic'ing of Buffy when I'm finished Buffy for sure.

    When you don't take 7 years to watch something but crash watch it all at once things are different.. I bet everyone (originally) was happy to see the high school setting but I was like WHAT not again, seriously? But that as a minor quibble, the writing just seemed so bored and awkward.

    Three things have been getting on my nerves and despite these things I have enjoyed this show more than any other I've watched for a very long time (which is why I almost cried at the season 7 blahness).

    The three things are:

    1. Xander, enough with the whiney doucheyness and the constant insulting of Spike. That should have been a phase, thought the Anya relationship was the right step but then, backwards big time. And the insulting Anya every five seconds was sucky as well.

    2. Buffy stop punching Spike in the face every time he says something you don't like. Just stop it. We know you can do it but unless he actually lays a hand on you it's abusive shit. It does serve to show that you really live in his world though.

    3. Dawn. Whining. Whining. Whining. STOP. We get it, you're a teenager. A very unpleasant one most of the time.


    I feel sorry for Xander sometimes because he was written into a rut and never changed much. But then he opens his mouth.


    Okay I'm glad to hear it warms up after a bit.
     
  13. Guy Gardener

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    And then it ENDS!

    You see, Slayers are not supposed to live this long.

    In at 16, out at 18.

    A nice little system.

    Good vs evil.

    Natural balance.

    Stupid Buffy refuses to stay dead, and puts the system out of whack.

    You didn't like "The Zeppo" for Xander building?

    (Good lord that was season 3!)
     
  14. Melakon

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    I consider it the closest Voyager ever got to doing a Mirror Universe show. The actors all seemed to be having great fun.

    Someone edited it into this:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q-l8C89Yu0[/yt]


    If doesn't embed, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q-l8C89Yu0
     
  15. teacake

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    DON'T SPOIL ME RANDOM READERS I AM ON SEASON 6 THANK YOU

    Yeah I liked The Zeppo but the thing is the doucheyness kept resurfacing. He became more and more competent in the regular world, successful with construction etc.. and more competent in the demon fighting world as shown in The Zeppo. But he was still a whiny douche whenever there was a gap and it became time for Xander to say something in the script and I think that was lazy and unpleasant. Constant obnoxious hostility directed towards Spike and obnoxious sniping regularly directed at Anya. Spike is out there helping them fight something and Xander has to be a man and verbally bash him non stop which makes him look like the weenie reject he opened with. That he has been rapidly (via crash watching) getting bigger and broader and fatter and fuller and yet still sounds like that immature weenie is disconcerting.

    If you had to work with someone that was really good at their job but no one particularly liked and you had another coworker peppering the work day with verbal abuse and insults at the disliked guy you would think this coworker was extremely immature. That is what Xander is like but in some ways no one takes him seriously enough to even stop it other than yelling at him to shut up when it wastes too much time.

    I remember Mal insulting Inara's client in Shindig, though the client turned out to be a grade A abusive asshole Mal still looked immature and petulant doing it.

    Buffy abusing Spike is more interesting in that it highlights how much like him and those she fights she really is. Maybe seeing that kind of behavior gave Xander a feeling of permission, "we beat on this guy, YEEEEAH".
     
  16. Guy Gardener

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    He's a violent sociopath that needs to kill to avoid the DTs and feel good about himself.

    It's like if they could win the day by shooting up a couple litres of heroin, they would quickly induct a junkie into the scoobie gang and start looking for clean veins.

    The ends justify the means.
     
  17. teacake

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    And yet Whedon keeps bringing him back to his dweebish pre-vamp personality.

    It still makes Xander look bad.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    William the Bloody Awful.

    That shit is priceless.
     
  19. teacake

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    I'm taking a break tonight and catching up on GoT even though I have abstained from all the new things to finish Buffy. I was that upset by those two eps :lol:
     
  20. Guy Gardener

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