Does It Get Better???

Discussion in 'Voyager' started by AdmiralScreed, Dec 4, 2011.

  1. Mareika

    Mareika Captain Captain

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  2. You_Will_Fail

    You_Will_Fail Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Hypocritical is Janeway's middle name
     
  3. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    In the lap of squalor I assure you.
    What were her parents thinking!?!
     
  4. teacake

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  5. You_Will_Fail

    You_Will_Fail Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Maybe one of her parents is Yattho.
     
  6. AdmiralScreed

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    What are everyone's opinions of Vis a Vis and The Omega Directive?
     
  7. JanewayRulz!

    JanewayRulz! Vice Admiral Admiral

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    LOVED The Omega directive, Vis a vis was okay.
     
  8. DonIago

    DonIago Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Not sure I ever saw Vis a Vis. I really liked Omega though, especially Seven turning the crew into a collective, though in practice the idea of making a ship seize up whenever a minute quantity of a particle is detected seems like a bad decision.
     
  9. Lindley

    Lindley Moderator with a Soul Moderator

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    A battle we've already seen twice. Both the fighting in DS9: Emissary, and the aftermath in TNG: BoBW. So what would be the point in revisiting it again, but this time with Hirogen?
     
  10. AdmiralScreed

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    It would have been a lot more entertaining than a WWII simulation, IMO. I know that doesn't seem like much of a reason, and I don't expect anyone to agree with me. I honestly can't stand historical war movies, so I would've taken just about any simulation over the one that we were given.
     
  11. DonIago

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    I was looking forward to seeing how they'd handle it.
     
  12. You_Will_Fail

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    "Vis a Vis" is the definition of mediocre filler that isn't interesting in anyway.
    Some people find "The Omega Directive" a bit overblown but personally I loved the "Borg Religion" angle, it was another unique look at the Borg and the premise was interesting. Seeing Janeway basically consign a pre-warp civilization to doom was kind of depressing though.
     
  13. Lord Manitou

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    Col-axial warp drive- we finally experienced a warp drive that's not sick.
     
  14. JarodRussell

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    Omega directive is a strange episode.

    [RIGHT]Why?
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    I'll tell you.

    [RIGHT]Go ahead.
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    Just imagine Picard, Kirk or Sisko acting like Janeway, keeping the crew in the dark. They wouldn't.

    The whole idea that there is a directive only the Captain knows about is silly. What if the Captain dies and the First Officer needs to replace him?
     
  15. DonIago

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    Presumably when a new individual assumes command of a starship they're given access to the pertinent files.

    Of course, presumably usually when that sort of thing happens Starfleet is communicated with as well.
     
  16. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Anyone who needs to replace the Captain for a longer period of time and/or is field promoted needs that information, because it's sooooo important. What if Picard is on vacation for a week, and then suddenly the ship systems are completely shut down and Riker knows nothing about it?
     
  17. DonIago

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    Presumably the ship's computer is smart enough to grant Riker access to the pertinent information under such conditions. It's not rocket science.
     
  18. tighr

    tighr Commodore Commodore

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    Then Riker goes to his ready room, asks his computer why there is a giant Omega sign on every console, gives his authorization, and the computer will tell him. Duh.
     
  19. tighr

    tighr Commodore Commodore

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    If I recall, Vis a Vis had an absurd amount of technobabble. Like, more than the average episode. The ship had a technobabble warp drive, they fixed a particle problem in the drive with a technobabble carburator, then they technobabbled a DNA swap, then they technobabbled stopping the bad guy.

    The Omega Directive struck me as out of character for Janeway. But, the writers liked taking Janeway out of character, something we see over and over in the show (The Void, Equinox II, Endgame, countless other examples).
     
  20. DonIago

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    Perhaps Janeway is only truly in character when she's being out of character?

    ...because that makes perfect sense...