Does anyone else dislike Keiko O'brien?

Discussion in 'Deep Space Nine' started by Gul Bones, May 23, 2012.

  1. Kira Nerys

    Kira Nerys Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Out of all the characters in DS9,I couldn't stand Keiko .She wasn't believeable as being Obrein's wife and all she did complain ,complain.
     
  2. ILOVETREK1701

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    I liked keiko on tng but not so much on ds9.
     
  3. Rush Limborg

    Rush Limborg Vice Admiral Admiral

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    ^Yeah, she had quite a few nice moments in TNG--my favorites being her "labor" sequences in "Disaster", where she is decidedly NOT amused by poor Worf's awkward handling of the situation....
     
  4. Camren

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    Horrible woman, the Chief deserved better (but not hotter).

    She was completely in her element when she was possessed by the Pahwraith and had Miles perform all manner of dodgy things across the station.
     
  5. flavaflav

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    Keiko is the worst fucking character in the Star Trek universe. The bitch should have been killed off in the first TNG ep she appeared in
     
  6. DonIago

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    Nice...
     
  7. R. Star

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    Heh, the thing about that episode that amused me the most was O'brien grinning when she said she wasn't Keiko, like he was gonna get in some roleplay foreplay! :lol:
     
  8. TrixieVanSickle

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    Keiko was haughty and selfish. I think she worked as a character on TNG but on DS9 she was a pain in the ass. She seemed to not realize that by marrying a Starfleet officer, you married Starfleet, good or bad, for better or worse. Not realizing that Starfleet didn't always include the plush accommodations of the Enterprise D. She was naggy and unpleasant.

    There was a reason O'Brien drank in Quark's as much as he did.
     
  9. DonIago

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    If folks are going to attack the character it would be nice if they'd cite actual episodes instead of just making broad allegations.
     
  10. Rush Limborg

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    We cited examples throughout--particularly on the first page. You...might want to check that out. ;)

    But I'll be generous, here, and give some materials to chew on:

    As far back as "A Man Alone," we see Keiko whining about the station--and then storms off, saying, "I don't want to talk about this anymore!"

    In "Hippocratic Oath," O'Brien notes how deffensive Keiko is getting over the workshop--spinning some poppycock about a "subconcious desire" to push her out of the quarters.

    And then, "Fascination," when Keiko, again, gets way too defensive just because O'Brien's dissapointed about having to spend only one day with her before she goes out on another expedition.

    In "Body Parts", she goes on a Gamma Quadeant expedition--when she's pregnant!--and O'Brien notes how she'd also wanted to go kayaking...as though the health and well-being of her baby didn't matter to her!

    And, again...when Kira's in labor, and the O'Briens are doing the ritual--Keiko smacks Miles, for missing a beat! As I'd said in the beginning of this thread--had it been the other way around, there'd have been no question about how rotten Miles's behavior was towards his wife.

    Need I go on?
     
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  11. Gul Bones

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    I think as well, if you asked most guys the type of woman they would hope to avoid getting pregnant or getting married to it would be Keiko. She has far more unlikable attributes than likable ones. It seems Miles is on constant damage limitation mode with her trying to avoid upsetting her.

    I almost get the feeling he was intimidated by her and it was pretty clear who wore the trousers in their relationship. Not to be blunt but by most people's standards Keiko would be classed as a b****.
     
  12. Rush Limborg

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    Agreed. While the episode where she helped save his and Julian's life was a great moment for her--sadly, it was the exception, not the rule.
     
  13. DonIago

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    FWIW, I was mostly referring to the recent batch of posters who seemed to have little to do besides smile and nod and say, "Yeah, Keiko's a total b@tch!"

    Anyway it strikes me as totally realistic that she could have agreed to the move to DS9 because, even despite whatever reports she received regarding the condition of the station, she either wasn't as prepared as she thought she'd be or over time it wore her down more than she expected. At least she had the sense to get off the station when things got too hard for her, rather than sticking around and making things even worse.

    In any case, from a writing standpoint it wouldn't make much sense for us to see her in episodes where everything between her and Miles was perfect all the time, just as on forums people are less prone to start threads when everything's going well than they are when there are things that they take issue with.
     
  14. Rush Limborg

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    ^And yet, the writers showed Kira and Odo, or Sisko and Kassidy, or Worf and Jadzia--wherin things were , for the most part, perfectly fine. No problem there....
     
  15. TrixieVanSickle

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    Even when things weren't fine between the other couples, the men never had to walk on eggshells and be afraid to say "boo" to their spouses. Look at Worf and Jadzia. They had major issues throughout their relationship, but Jadzia never became a haughty bitch because of it.

    I think Keiko and Miles would have been a perfect couple to show what divorce is like in the 24th Century. Seriously. Not all marriages work out and having them divorce would have been a great subplot for DS9.
     
  16. DonIago

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    I seem to remember Jadzia becoming a "haughty bitch" in "You are Cordially Invited"...at least until Sisko took her down a few pegs.
     
  17. R. Star

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    Bridezilla or just another example of inconsistency for her? :P
     
  18. Gul Bones

    Gul Bones Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Jadzia had her moments, Keiko seemed to have a moment... well every moment. Obviously I'm exaggerating a bit but that's what it felt like apart from one or two nice moments.

    Moment.
     
  19. Sindatur

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    Miles liked being treated like that, that's why when she left the Station, they had to up the number of "Torture O'Brien" episodes, so he didn't miss her much :devil:
     
  20. DonIago

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    It may be the case to some degree that that was the type of relationship Miles wanted. Not just what we saw, but what we presumably didn't see.

    Lord knows I've seen people I know in relationships and thought more than once, "Why are you doing that to yourself?" while they seem perfectly content.
     

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