Doctor Who accused of racism

Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by Candlelight, May 26, 2013.

  1. DalekJim

    DalekJim Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I disagree it is "simple fact" that most couples are interracial.
     
  2. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Now.

    But everyone used to be constrained by geography and racism.

    Racism used to be cool.
     
  3. The Mirrorball Man

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    Is it important?
     
  4. Starkers

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    And he didn't say it was a fact that most couples were interracial, just that the UK had a higher percentage of interracial couples than any other countries.

    Anyway Doctor Who racist...give me strength.
     
  5. JoeZhang

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    Yes because white males are the most oppressed group in the world and someone has to speak out for them!
     
  6. Irvy

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    Doctor Who is a story about time travel, and he goes into Earth's past a lot. In Earth's past, there was a lot of blatant racism. It's only by acknowledging and showing how bad things actually were that you can highlight how far we have come in setting that right.

    Black people weren't the only slaves in our past. For many years, Vikings raided coastal villages all around the British Isles and beyond, taking white people and selling them as slaves.

    If we ignore history, we are doomed to repeat it. Many of us even now are treated like and feel like slaves just trying to make ends meet. Sure, we have the luxury nowadays of locking ourselves in our comfy cages at night, but we still lock ourselves in, and we still don't have the freedom to wander off and do as we please, if we have the money to do it we can't, we have to be at work, and if we don't have a job to be a slave to, we don't have the money to do what we want.
     
  7. The Mirrorball Man

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    Heh. ;) I find the whole thing a bit puzzling, to say the least, because this thread made me realize that I am in an interracial relationship, and that the thought had never crossed my mind before, so maybe it's not that big of a deal.
     
  8. CaptainWacky

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    So do you care or not?
     
  9. ainmneacha_Nollag

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    And if I had said what you think I said, then maybe you'd have a point, the thing is, I didn't say what you thought and thus, you don't have a point. Just a recap, what I wrote was this:

    Of course, not all relationships are inter-racial, but due to the way the Empire fucked so many people over around the globe and because of the *brilliant way we let anyone from our former colonies to come and stay, we do have a very high-percentage of them which is one of only a few things that make me proud of this wee nation.

    Also, given that RTD based most of his contemporary stories in modern day London, which is one of the most ethnically diverse cities in the World, the odds of a inter-racial couple being involved is pretty high. Where as if it's based in rural Gloucestershire or here in Somerset, the odds are there won't be because it doesn't have the ethnic diversity.

    As for Doctor Who being racist, what a load of bollocks.

    *In no way is this a sarcastic comment.
     
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  10. ROBE

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    Just goes to show no matter how hard you try and be balanced in creating a work of fiction, somebody will find and scream discrimination.
     
  11. Guy Gardener

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    Dimesdan.

    When you imagine this load of bollocks... What colours are they?
     
  12. Tora Ziyal

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    I might've been skeptical that the thought had really never crossed your mind, except... I was at least thirty when it occurred to me that my Venezuelan godmother was "Hispanic."

    Regarding the racism charge: I haven't watched that much Doctor Who, but one of the first things I noticed was how many interracial couples there were.
     
  13. Irvy

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    Of course, having worked in care for many years, I could also point out that there's never been a companion with a disability. None of the Doctor's regenerations have ever had Down's Syndrome (although it could be argued that the Doctor has Asperger's Syndrome). And that TARDIS, not exactly wheelchair friendly, is it?
     
  14. sttngfan1701d

    sttngfan1701d Commodore Commodore

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    Well as a guy with a disability and who uses a wheelchair, no matter what the uber-positives always say, there ARE certain things we can't do. We are not able to run with the Doctor and escape Daleks or Cybermen. There should NOT be a disabled companion because of this. Not a main one, anyway.

    And while I'm sure the TARDIS can make itself accessible for the needs of its inhabitants, even I wouldn't want to see that.

    But I think it would be nice to see people in wheelchairs on the show. People who work, or assist the Doctor at UNIT or in a lab. Or even show one of the companions with a boyfriend or girlfriend in a wheelchair. That would be nice to see. THAT is something under-respresented on TV and movies that I would like to see more of.
     
  15. Tora Ziyal

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    ^ Yes, that would be good.

    And I like the term "uber-positives." There are a bunch of them in cancer-land, too.
     
  16. sttngfan1701d

    sttngfan1701d Commodore Commodore

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    Positive is better than negative, but for every picture I see of someone in a wheelchair visiting the Pyramids or whatever with a caption that says "I can do ANYTHING!", I want to say "Sure, but can you hang Christmas lights on the house or get winter clothes down from the attic?" :lol:

    They hate me. :p
     
  17. Guy Gardener

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    "Davros" is not only in a wheel chair but so is every other Dalek we have ever seen except for that tentacle face from the Daleks Take Manhattan.

    Or is that not the sort of positive role-modelry you're after?

    "You too can exterminate all life in the universe from the comfort of your wheel Chair just like Davros."
     
  18. sttngfan1701d

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    Eat it, HoverRound! Davros has you beat. Who needs to see the Grand Canyon when you can exterminate all life in the universe? :lol:
     
  19. Prince of Space

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    Obviously, it would help if people had more of a sense of humor (and a sense of perspective). It would also be great if any two of us could agree on exactly what constititutes racism. There seem to be as many definitions as there are humans on this planet.
     
  20. Maestro

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    The book was written by a consortium of 23 academics and bloggers, primarily Americans, partially Australian, and with only a few Brits. The fact that a bunch of non-British folks are bitching about a British show lends them precious little credibility to begin with. Add to that that they're academics and feminist issue bloggers, I just really don't think the book should be taken seriously.

    If they wanted to bitch about NCIS being racist, by all means, but Doctor Who? Sorry, not your country folks. STFU/GTFO.