Discussion in 'Doctor Who' started by Candlelight, May 26, 2013.
Or more precisely, because they were the leftovers.
Agreed, far better treated than any of the minority characters under RTD's Who tenure.
Rani was fucking hawt too.
Jack, Mickey and Martha had group sex.
And they kept having group sex until Jack wandered off bored and then, well... Two people is still a group.
The '70s were a weird time for the legion, another odd story is Cosmic Boy being revealed as a religious fundamentalist who assaults a female co-worker when she asked him to use his super-powers on a special holy day.
The problem with actors of age playing underage characters, they sometimes make you feel guilty of fancying them.
If you're gonna write a fanfic on that, I'm gonna check it out.
RTD wrote all his characters as idiots .
No guilt here .
Bah-wha? Doctor Who under RTD is one of the most racially diverse shows around.
Meanwhile, the article in the OP is bullshit. Maybe Doctor Who has never been a leading voice in getting more minorities on TV and admittedly classic Who is very much white man's TV. But that's a reality of TV in general in the 60s and 70s and it was never racially offensive. Except for Tomb of the Cybermen, that is. "You do not talk to him, he is my servant." That line sums everything up.
Doctor Who is a 50 year show, so naturally to 21st century some of the stuff in the 60s or 70s are going to be insensitive to modern audiences. However a lot of their complaints are utterly mad, how is being a cricket fan racist?
The number of white slaves in Doctor Who vastly outnumbers the amount of black slaves. Tomb of the Cybermen isn't racist, it's a terrific story.
Talons of Weng-Chiang is kinda racist, but it's a fucking awesome story.
This. Almost every coupling in that era was interracial.
Yeah, it was ludicrously forced in its attempt at political correctness. I'm struggling to think of same-race couples at all. Even Donna's fiance in The Runaway Bride was black.
Hey now. As a guy in an interracial relationship both back then and now, I think it's good to see it on TV. Given that there are still people in the world that see it as "unnatural", the more the visibility in pop culture, the more widespread acceptance.
Sometimes PC is a good thing.
Of the top of my head, series 1:
Rose's parents were both white. In "Rose", Clive and his wife (and children) were white. In "Father's Day", bride and groom were also both white.
"Tooth and Claw" had a white married couple. So had "The Idiot's Lantern". "Love & Monsters" had Elton and Ursula, both white.
The old married lesbian couple in "Gridlock" was also both white. Laszlo and Tallulah in the "Daleks in Manhattan" two-parter were white. In the "Human Nature" two-parter, the humanized white Doctor falls for the white Joan. In "Blink", Larry and Sally are white. The Master's wife in the series 3 finale is also white.
The married couple from "The Unicorn and the Wasp" were white, as were the married couple from "Midnight". Of course, Rose and the half-human Doctor at the end of "Journey's End" are both white.
And, finally, the aforementioned Mickey & Martha scene in "The End of Time".
Also, what sttngfan1701d said.
More visiblity on teleision is a good thing but that kinda PC atmosphere gave the show a pretty sterile vibe at times. It rang pretty false to me having most couples be interracial and it became a cliche, your mileage may vary.
Classic Who? Yeah, I'm sure there were incidents of racism, as there was for many television programs back in the 1960s. Now, though? I don't see much of what that article is talking about. NuWho seems to go out of it's way to include as many people as possible.
Idris Elba for #12.
Oh you heartless racists!
Portraying lots of interracial couples is awesome and will become the norm; complaining about them is just weird and questionable.
The BBC had a thread of programmes about this a year or so ago, the reason was because The United Kingdom has the highest percentage or has one of the highest percentages of inter-racial couples in the World.
So in the case of RTD, it wasn't being shoehorned it nor was it pandering to the PC brigade, it was simple fact and he was acknowledging this.
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