Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by The Overlord, Dec 28, 2012.
TOS had a pretty good looking cast. So, that idea doesn't float either.
I wasn't comparing them to the cast of TOS.
Spock from TOS seasons 1-3 was the character of Number One from "The Cage" applied to Nimoy. In the earliest plans for Trek, he had red skin and had a metal plate on his chest through which he absorbed energy.
TOS was always finding excuses for Spock to get emotional or fall in love or go nuts (Naked Time, Shore Leave, Amok Time, Enterprise Incident etc). It's what made him interesting, getting glimpses of what lies under that Vulcan mask. This film manages to work it into a plausible context (the secret affair with Uhura because he's a "closeted emotional", he attacks Kirk because he's reached the breaking point after an unimaginable tragedy etc) without resorting to the tricks the TOS episodes had to to ensure he'd be back to normal by the end.
But of course if you don't count the episodes where we see Spock's guard comes down...
Yeah, he had the hair AND the ears!
In my opinion, only two actors have managed to portray an interesting and convincing Vulcan onscreen: Leonard Nimoy with his cool, sarcastic dry wit and Zachary Quinto with his repressed anger. All the other actors, the whisperers (Blalock), the sleepwalkers (Russ) and the snobbish (most of the others), didn't manage to find a way to play the part.
Huh? On what? Which decade? Damn you, be specific.
In answer to the original topic, yes, I think it did.
Trek's old continuity could have been saved, but there were certain things bogging down the creative process, and people didn't seem to have a good idea about how to deal with them.
I was quite partial to J Michael Straczynski's proposal for a full reboot.
I liked Kirstie Alleyt's Saavik, but I'm not sure that counts if you include the whole Romulan thing.
Quinto was smarmy Vulcan #34 to me. Better than Blalock but I'm not sure about Russ.
I've never been impressed by Russ in any scene, while I think that Quinto's acting in the "screw you then, I'm joining Starfleet" scene is excellent.
I'd add Mark Lenard to that list.
Vulcans are certainly difficult to play, since you have to imply all the stuff going on behind the stiff, stoic facade, but I think Lenard managed to pull it off.
yeah, my reaction was "whoa whoa whoa". My list would be
1. Pretty much all the TOS actors, including Arlene Martel (who actually answered an email I sent her, so I have to include her)
2. Quinto, Judith Anderson, Cross
3. (Huge gap)
5. The rest.
Meh. I pretty much like all the Vulcans. They're just...different. I do find the DS9 ones a bit oddball though.
I think it was the very emotional Enterprise ones that really made me sit down and think, "Man, I haven't seen a good Vulcan in a while".
And I don't know how Curtis managed to do a WORSE Vulcan than Saavik, but she pulled it off. (In TNG)
I liked Blalock's T'Pol more than any of the Vulcan characters other than Spock.
What?! 'Classic Rock' is clearly a thing of the 1960ies (Beatles, Rolling Stones, et al.)
Oldies are from the 60s. Classic rock is from the 70s. Get it right, people.
Dare I admit to watching silent movies on occasion?
(Just caught WEST OF ZANZIBAR with Lon Chaney Sr. the other morning. A weird, twisted movie.)
Metropolis is still great. I think one of reasons I like TMP are those long visual sequences with music and very little or no dialogue.
Oldies are from the 50s. Get it right, whipper-snapper.
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