Do fans want the prime timeline back? Part 2: Poll edition.

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by bbjeg, Sep 6, 2013.

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Do fans want the prime timeline back?

  1. I'm a fan and I want the Prime timeline back.

    56.0%
  2. I'm a fan and I don't want the Prime timeline back.

    16.4%
  3. I'm a fan and wouldn't mind if it came back.

    11.1%
  4. I don't care, just give me Trek!

    14.6%
  5. I don't know.

    1.9%
  1. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Admiral Admiral

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    It was never their intent to be free of the Prime timeline. If anything, all the temporal incursions were supposed to ultimately result in the Prime Universe as we knew it in TOS.
     
  2. BigJake

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    Which of course makes no sense. :) But I half-wonder if despite this intention, the Temporal Cold War and ENT's many retcons wound up inspiring the "alternate universe" reboot.
     
  3. Bacl

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    Do I want the PRIME timeline back? I guess so. What I really want is for Star Trek to be about ideas and exploration and humanity again. I don't want it to be dark and angry and ANOTHER revenge story. I want it to be Star Trek in idea, not aesthetic.
     
  4. maneth

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    Agreed, revenge stories are getting old. I think that's why a show would be better than even a series of movies, because a show needs more stories to tell than just a fight against one enemy. Both JJ movies have been revenge stories, as were TWoK and Nemesis. Time for something else.
     
  5. CorporalCaptain

    CorporalCaptain Admiral Admiral

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    Sorry, on second reading, I see that I simply echoed what you said in the underlined passage.

    Here is the Rick Berman interview I was thinking of (full interview available at link).

     
  6. SPCTRE

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    I want as much quality Trek in as many forms as possible.

    Video games, movies, TV series, novels, you name it.
     
  7. BillJ

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    Star Trek seems like the perfect franchise for an open world adventure game, like the Grand Theft Auto series.
     
  8. bbjeg

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    ^I thought that MMO was supposed to be that.
     
  9. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Well, MMOs are MMOs. I don't like them. I like single player offline open world games like Assassin's Creed, GTA, Morrowind, Skyrim, etc...
     
  10. SPCTRE

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    Then you'll hate The Elder Scrolls Online :)
     
  11. JarodRussell

    JarodRussell Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I actually do. Not getting my money.
     
  12. BillJ

    BillJ Admiral Admiral

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    I agree with JarodRussell here (looking out the window I see it's raining cats and dogs), I've never cared for MMO's.
     
  13. bbjeg

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    Just curious, who would be up for a rated R, HBO ran series? I would personally love it.
     
  14. Cyke101

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    One problem with the MMO, which the creators have acknowledged but are having an immensely difficult time correcting, is that the game is heavily skewed towards combat. While it's fun, it's only one part of Star Trek, and it doesn't quite translate to an experience beyond mere shooting. There's not much exploration (admittedly hard to do if there are thousands of players), problem solving and puzzles get tedious, quest narratives become convoluted, and even intergalactic diplomacy descends into a gunfight.

    So the MMO only appeals to a certain section of fans, but it isn't as comprehensive as one might expect from an open world. I like the game and I play it, but it's not for everyone. That it uses the Prime timeline as the source material is a plus, but the game itself is still limited.

    A single player game like Mass Effect but tuned for Star Trek, though? Sign me up.
     
  15. arch101

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    A potential new series should be set so far in the future (say, 1000 years) that it doesn't matter WHAT timeline it's in. Events from the Treks we know would be so fragmentary that strict adherence to cannon would be unnecessary. This would free up writers to invent whatever they want.
     
  16. BillJ

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    No thanks. I grew up watching Trek and I'd like to be able to watch Trek with my son.
     
  17. bbjeg

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    Yeah, that makes perfect sense. My father was a TOS fan and I enjoyed watching TNG with him. I hope that can continue with other families too.
     
  18. Sindatur

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    I'd be fine with a Trek Show not being afraid to show a necessary (to the plot or character) sex scene, but, I don't want to see it descend into something like True Blood (Is Game of Thrones the same?) where you have a gratuitous sex scene or even two in every episode. Look at the outrage, just over the Decontamination underwear and/or Gel scenes, which are nowhere near as numerous as you'd think by the vitriol.

    I'd also be fine with some added grit/darkness/graphic violence, but, again, I don't want so much of it, unrelenting, that the show isn't still generally fun to watch. B5 and DS9 both went pretty dark at times, as does Once Upon a Time now, and they're all very fun to watch for me.

    NuBSG and Torchwood: Children of Earth, are both very excellent masterpieces of SciFi and well worth watching and enjoyable, but, there's almost never a break from the hopelessness and depressing-ness. To keep a show fun, you need to break up the Heavy drama (Either with a positive "B" story, or something positive in alternate episodes, or some humor somewhere, where you give the audience a break from seeing only depressing)

    The Walking Dead, is about as dark as you can go with a TV show, without it becoming "Torture Porn"tm, but, it still manages to keep some fun and hope splashed in here and there.

    If there was a more adult version, I'd prefer to also see an animated version, so folks like BillJ could still share some with their kids. And if the adult version went too NuBSG depressing or too True Blood almost non-stop sex, I'd probably look forward to the Animated version more each week.
     
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  19. CTGuyton

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    I don't think a sex scene would ever be needed. We may see one or two, we've pretty much seen as much of it as we can on TV in the previous shows and movies with Kirk, Riker, etc. But I see it as more of the freedom to not be forced to hide nudity. A doctor may need to rip open a girls shirt to treat her wounds. We could see a Betazoid wedding in all it's glory. Pon Farr.

    As well as getting past the language restrictions. I could see Picard yelling "I'm tired of your shit Q!" Or Data discovering the word fuck and using it in completely inappropriate situations.
     
  20. bbjeg

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    Rated R Pon Farr would probably get bloody.
     

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