Destiny: Lost Souls by David Mack Review Thread (Spoilers!)

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by nx1701g, Nov 16, 2008.

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Grade Lost Souls

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  1. LightningStorm

    LightningStorm The Borg King Commodore

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    Re: Star Trek: Destiny: Lost Souls - Discuss/Grade


    Yeah, OK, this is getting a bit out of hand. Since we do have a thread for this particular topic let's please keep that there:

    http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=73448

    Let's reserve this topic for discussion and reviewing of the book itself as opposed to who's spotted it where and when/how it was shipped.

    Thanks
     
  2. rfmcdpei

    rfmcdpei Captain Captain

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    Re: Star Trek: Destiny: Lost Souls - Discuss/Grade

    How much detail can people reacting to the book go into?
     
  3. LightningStorm

    LightningStorm The Borg King Commodore

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  4. Annorax

    Annorax Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    Re: Star Trek: Destiny: Lost Souls - Discuss/Grade

    Getting back to the topic... I have to wonder when we'll find out
    who of Voyager's crew survived
    and
    how and when Sonya Gomez became captain of the Da Vinci.

    Overall, this was very good, although with this being a couple years ahead of the rest of the series, I have to wonder if it'll be ages before the rest of the series catch up to Destiny. I can't say anything other than "holy shit, that ending was somehow formulaic and yet also unexpected". I also thought Ezri making captain Picard-style would turn out badly, but I was pleasantly surprised. Will there be an Aventine series following this at some point?

    I'll probably end up rereading these almost as often as I do Millennium.

    @Marco when he inevitably sees this: Omnibus edition = free money.

    Edit: Why do the spoiler tags work differently here? Every other vbulletin forum I'm on has [noparse]
    text
    [/noparse]... what's different here?
     
  5. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    Re: Star Trek: Destiny: Lost Souls - Discuss/Grade

    That depends on what you mean by "the rest of the series." The next books in the TNG, Voyager, and Titan series will all take place after Destiny (well, the next VGR book will begin two years earlier and fill in the intervening time, but it will end up some time past the trilogy). Otherwise, DS9 and Gorkon/Klingon Empire are about four years behind DES and Corps of Engineers was about three years behind when last we saw it. The last New Frontier book was set about two years prior to DES, and it's unclear when the next one will take place.

    Probably not, but the Aventine is featured in A Singular Destiny early next year.
     
  6. KRAD

    KRAD Keith R.A. DeCandido Admiral

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    You will get answers to both those questions in 2009. :)
     
  7. nx1701g

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    We have a different spoiler system. Here we get to specify what the spoiler is about and hide the actual spoiler. It's an additional warning of sorts.
     
  8. LaBarre

    LaBarre Commander Red Shirt

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    OK guys, I know some of you are reading and already enjoying Lost Souls. Please put me out of my misery - Amazon has got to ship this book to Oz. Just tell me one thing - does Picard survive?
     
  9. JoeZhang

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    Voyager crew? we only saw two headliners didn't we?
     
  10. William Leisner

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    Re: Star Trek: Destiny: Lost Souls - Discuss/Grade

    Jean-Luc Picard will return in TNG: Losing the Peace.
     
  11. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

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    Re: Star Trek: Destiny: Lost Souls - Discuss/Grade

    ...as a zombie!!!
    Or not.
     
  12. David Mack

    David Mack Writer Commodore

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    No, but THEY SAVED PICARD'S BRAIN! :)
     
  13. Mike Farley

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    I heard they attached Picard's severed head to a youthful cloned Kirk!
     
  14. DEWLine

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    Better that choice than some of the alternatives! :lol:
     
  15. Species7582

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    How about
    General Klag?
     
  16. Julio Angel Ortiz

    Julio Angel Ortiz Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Re: Star Trek: Destiny: Lost Souls - Discuss/Grade

    Bought it around 6PM, and just finished it 2 minutes ago.

    If you thought the first two books may have been all about buildup and not enough "oomph"... yeah, Lost Souls makes up for it.

    Wow. There are some great moments...

    Just a few standouts off of the top of my head:

    • The origin of the Borg (people kind of guessed it, but never quite like this...).
    • I liked the idea of what was *really* at the root of the Borg...the hunger... and the foreshadowing from the Aventine portion of Gods of Night...).
    • The scene with Tuvok's son and his wife... wow. Talk about a great piece of writing. I re-read that scene several times before moving on.
    • Erika pretty much rocks in this novel.
    • Hope... after all the despair and foreboding in the trilogy and halfway through this novel, the ultimate message of hope was very gratifying.
    • A lot more to go into... but I'm beat.

    Everything comes together beautifully in the final novel. Just awesome. The saga is indeed complete.
     
  17. LaBarre

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    Thank you William.

    David and Christopher - ha ha - but at least l can now relax, I think.
     
  18. KRAD

    KRAD Keith R.A. DeCandido Admiral

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    That, too. :evil:
     
  19. casey

    casey Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Re: Star Trek: Destiny: Lost Souls - Discuss/Grade

    Well as far as a Star Trek book is concerned I would say that this was perfect. It was everything you could hope for.

    I was particularly happy with the optimism of the ending. From some of what I had heard I expected the book to end with destruction, death, and devastation, but instead I got that feeling of hope that sends tingles down my spine. Yeah, the consequences will be far reaching, but they will be dealt with and in the end of the day the Federation will survive. And perhaps now there is a real chance of peace in this part of the galaxy. Then again with the next TNG novel being Losing the Peach perhaps that peace will be short lived.

    As far as
    the origin of the borg is concerned, yes I had guessed it, somewhat but it far better than what I had imaged. Even with the foreshadowing of the hunger from the first book I didn't guess that the hunger would be behind the borg. And I like that. I was wondering how the peaceful Caeliar, and humans bent on keeping their free will would combine to be the borg. Very well done!


    And finally now people can stop complaining about more Borg stories! I get the feeling they are pretty much done.
    Although I really hope that we get to see more of Hernandez and Borg 2.0.

    And for those people complaining about more borg, this is definitely the best Borg story I have read.

    The last thing I have to say is that page 128 made me cry. I think that is the author's greatest strength--the ability to capture the raw emotion that the characters are feeling and translate it into something meaningful. You really do care about these characters--even if they only appear for a page. And he writes them in such a way that you connect with them and feel the emotion right along with them.

    I wasn't planning to, but I now I will definitely be reading The Calling.


    And with that said, I can start complaining about how amazon isn't shipping A Singular Destiny yet!
     
  20. Julio Angel Ortiz

    Julio Angel Ortiz Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Re: Star Trek: Destiny: Lost Souls - Discuss/Grade

    All this death and destruction, and Leisner's going to write a follow-up book about fruit? :lol:

    100% agree. That scene was the closest a Trek novel ever had me to misting up. Like I wrote earlier, I had to re-read it a few times because it was so raw, powerful... especially Eliethe's (sic?) admission right before the end. Wow. Loved it.

    Destiny, as a whole, is just an amazing piece of work. I'll just go ahead and call this the Lord of the Rings of Trek. :techman:
     

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