DC's New 52: Reviews and Discussion (Spoilers welcolme and likely)

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by JD, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. Trekker4747

    Trekker4747 Boldly going... Premium Member

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    Ah! The forget kiss!

    I keep forgetting about that power.
     
  2. Mike Farley

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    How could you? Along with the Saran Wrap "S" Shield and Fix-the-Great-Wall-of-China vision, it's the most potent of Clark's powers.
     
  3. Trekker4747

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    Superman regularly flies into my home and kisses me to make me forget those terrible movies, and the kiss from the one really good movie.

    He's surprisingly tender.
     
  4. Broccoli

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    ^ How could you possibly remember that?!
     
  5. Derishton

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    :lol:
     
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    trekker has 24 hour webcams.
     
  7. Trekker4747

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    Well, he probably gets really mad at some point, punches time in the face -shattering it- and thus causing me to regain my memory thus necessitating another kiss. It's a vicious cycle.
     
  8. Admiral_Young

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    What estate are you referring to Trekker? The Kent farm? Why would Clark live there when he works literally 24/7 in Metropolis? A farm also costs money to maintain. Although it hasn't been shown what the fate of the farm and Kent home is...the way Clark clutched the photo of his parents it is reasonable to assume that it has been sold and yes I know that is speculating but it's very possible. Perhaps we'll be shown what the farm's fate is.
     
  9. Admiral Buzzkill

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    At this point in his life it's certainly not as if Clark can, say, fly home to the farm at super-speed every night. He has to live in one place or the other.
     
  10. Admiral_Young

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    ^ Exactly and that was one of the many dumb things that "Smallville" did which made no sense just so they could use those sets/locations.
     
  11. Trekker4747

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    That's just it, when his parents died as their "child" he'd get their estate, thus control over their farm and all other assets. When he sold the farm and their assets he would've gotten some-sort-of windfall from it. Maybe not a huge sum of money and maybe he used it to pay off college bills/student loans but he'd have some sort of cash pile for himself.

    Regardless, I'm not too big a fan of the Peter Parker-ian way he's living it just seems to be a bit much, I think his single person existence could've been conveyed just by having him live in a crappy studio apartment in some Metropolis suburb that's a 45-minute commuter train ride away.

    It's not necessarily a huge negative issue with me on this comic it's just that it's hard to not think of Peter Parker when I read these sections of the book when it really should have tried to establish its own identity and history. (Nor am I too big a fan of both his parents being dead but I digress.)
     
  12. Professor Zoom

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    Unless there was a pile of debt. Pa Kent owed a lot of money. Like to the bank... or his gambling debts... His estate has to pay that off.

    Just because there is something to sell, doesn't mean there's a pile of cash at the end of it.

    Yeah... because every 20 something wants to live in a suburb... :rolleyes: Seriously, if you had a choice, as a twenty year old, with dreams of being a reporter, would you choose living in Manhattan, or far out in Long Island?

    If they made his neighborhood more culturally specific, maybe that could help. It's kinda generic in it's "poorness." For me, it makes sense what Kent is doing, and it doesn't read as Peter Parker.
     
  13. Nerys Myk

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    Peter Parker ripped off Clark first. Clark's parents ( both sets) died in Action Comics vol.1 issue 1. He was also the "mild mannered" type before Parker as well.
     
  14. Admiral_Young

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    Where can I live the best lifestyle for the least amount of money?

    "Suburb" may have been a strong term to use but I could think of nothing else to say for an "outlying area with affordable housing that's worth living in because it's not a single room in some crazy lady's townhouse."

    It's a minor thing but, again, for me I don't much like how Clark's early living situation is being shown -how do you think Lois and Jimmy are living right now? It's a moot point as we're only going to see this "young Clark" for a short-time anyway.

    I think the general idea, him being early in his career pretty much living pay check-to-pay check could've been conveyed without going to such an extreme.
     
  16. Admiral_Young

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    What extreme? He's not Bruce Wayne. He doesn't have heaps full of cash and resources to lean on. I'm not sure how else Morrison could have conveyed Clark's living condition. Eventually I assume it will change as Clark rises in his career and earns more cash. We don't really know the situation that created Clark living in a cheap apartment as well. Perhaps this will be explained in future issues.
     
  17. Professor Zoom

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    You haven't been an early 20 something in sometime, have you?

    The best "lifestyle" for a 20 something, from their perspective, ain't the burbs. They aren't thinking, nice, safe, inexpensive. They are thinking: bars, chicks, in the action. And then, the least amount of money: renting teeny tiny apartments that are basically closets.


    You're thinking like an adult, who has settled down.

    This is Clark at the BEGINNING of his life. He's young. He wants to be where the action is--both the action and girls (though, who knows, maybe this Clark swings for both teams)

    I don't know, but I would imagine Lois is doing alright, probably has a nice-ish place, she's a little further along in her career it seems. Or maybe she has roommates. Again, she wants to be near the action, not a 45 minute train ride from the 'burbs.

    And Jimmy, he's living with two other roommates and has to share a room.

    Have you ever been to New York? This experience, especially for young kids moving to the city, it's quite common.


    Seriously, this is NOT an extreme. LOTS of people live how he is in New York City.
     
  18. Hound of UIster

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    No big loss. He was a terrible writer. World of Flashpoint was a friggin ripoff.

    Almost none of the books under him were any good barring Resurrection Man.
     
  19. Admiral Buzzkill

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    You haven't presented a single plausible reason for that, though. What's your experience with urban living? Are you under the misimpression that there aren't a large number of young adults living like Clark in cities all over the United States while they try to build careers for themselves? Did you ever try to find a place to live in New York or Chicago when you were young?

    Sheesh. Frankly, telling this part of Clark's life in this way makes the character suddenly a lot more believable than in previous versions.
     
  20. Admiral_Young

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    ^ Agreed. As I said it makes him more grounded and one with the people...and that seems to be a theme that Morrison is going for.