Cumberbatch talks John Harrison [spoilers]

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by SalvorHardin, Dec 12, 2012.

  1. SalvorHardin

    SalvorHardin Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Let the speculation continue:)

    Cumberbatch:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xoe9vpQcPw
    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xoe9vpQcPw[/yt]

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1698760/benedict-cumberbatch-star-trek.jhtml
     
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  2. lurok

    lurok Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    It's not Sybok.

    Though I so want it to be The Final Frontier reboot.
     
  3. Enterprise is Great

    Enterprise is Great Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Mental powers, huh? Well, that rules Khan out.
     
  4. trevanian

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    Mental powers, huh? Based on Ms. Marcus' scream, am wondering if she will be seduced by the dark side of the force, so lil Marcus might not be Kirk's in this reality.
     
  5. Draculasaurus

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    All your Pike is belong to us!

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  6. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk The Real Me Premium Member

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    Mental powers can also mean superior intellect. You know, the kind that Kirk laughs at. ;)
     
  7. Franklin

    Franklin Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Maybe. Mental powers could just mean great intellect. "He can sow an idea" could be metaphorical for a great power of persuasion, not the actual abililty to control another person's mind. Just sayin'. Of course, anyone who knows for sure ain't talkin'.

    Edited to add: Beat me to the thought by one minute Santa Kang.
     
  8. SalvorHardin

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    It looks like even though we learn new things every day, it's not enough for any villain candidate to be ruled out by fans. :lol:
     
  9. Enterprise is Great

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    Yeah. I was going to edit my post and add "unless he means mental powers in a metaphorical way." but you beat me to it.
     
  10. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    It's not (choose one):

    A. Khan
    B. Gary Mitchell
    C. Gary Seven
    D. Jean-Luc Picard
    E. Trelane
    F. George Samuel "Johnny" Kirk
    G. Arne Darvin
    H. Cyrano Jones
    I. Kevin Riley
    J. Kang
    K. Kor
    L. Koloth
    M. Korax
    N. a tribble
    O. Nilz Baris
    P. Gorgan
    Q. Q
    R. Soran
    S. Henoch
    T. Kollos
    U. Janice Lester
    V. Captain Garrovick
    W. Ben Finney
    X. Finnegan
    Y. Rose
    Z. Boothby​
     
  11. Ovation

    Ovation Vice Admiral Admiral

    Then, by the fact he's not on this list, it must beā€¦LAZARUS!!!!

    :lol:
     
  12. marksound

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    Are you sure? Cuz I got money ridin' on this!
     
  13. Balrog

    Balrog Commodore Commodore

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    Perhaps...

    Pike's mission to Talos IV never occurred. What if a mission led by Harrison went instead, and he did learn the mental powers of the Talosians...
     
  14. Xaios

    Xaios Commander Red Shirt

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    That settles it.






    It's the Pakleds.
     
  15. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Not in the least, because Cumberbatch elaborates to indicate that he's not talking about literal "powers" like mind control or telekinesis. Khan in "Space Seed" was clearly as accustomed to leading by persuasion and/or seduction of one kind or another as by intimidation or force.

    In fact, Cumberbatch's description of the villain leaves some version of Khan as a possibility and rules Mitchell out. :p
     
  16. Ovation

    Ovation Vice Admiral Admiral

    Really? Was that in the video (that I cannot see from my location)? It isn't in the text of the accompanying article.

    I never bought into the Mitchell scenario, but frankly, at least here, the probability that it is Khan is not especially compelling either. It may very well be Khan (though I would find that disappointing) but I'm not ready to bet any money on it.
     
  17. M'Sharak

    M'Sharak Definitely Herbert. Maybe. Moderator

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    There's a little bit from Cumberbatch which isn't quoted, but they get the bulk of what he says - all of the important bits are there, I think. Rather than anything which was omitted from the text, I suspect Legion was referring to the part where Cumberbatch said:
    He's particularly adept at suggestion and persuasion, sounds like.
     
  18. Franklin

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    Would Khan have a cause that we may feel empathy for, as Cumberbatch says the character does?

    And on whom is this Khan seeking vengeance?

    And how does he get into Starfleet (or at least the "organization," as it's said in the synopsis)?

    Why does he want to save a little girl?

    And finally, Khan with a pseudonym? Really? Khan? The great and mighty Khan afraid to reveal himself? Khan don't need no stinking pesudonnym. He's Khan.
     
  19. teacake

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    This sounds more and more like a perfect character to be played by Cumberbatch.
     
  20. sttngfan1701d

    sttngfan1701d Commodore Commodore

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    Sick of this secrecy and doubletalk. It was cute the first time around. This time....just tell us please.