Good afternoon, It's been a while since I saw Star Trek 2009, but I was turning all the various problems over in my head, and keep coming back to Nero's motivation to have revenge on Vulcan, hatred of Spock, and the destruction of Romulus. My question for you who may remember all the details of the film more completely than I do, is there any room for interpretation in the dialogue to allow for the possibility that perhaps the Hobus supernova itself was not physically responsible for the actual destruction of the planet Romulus? Could the development or deployment of Red Matter, by Vulcan / the Federation, or their choice to use it on Hobus in the way they did or at the time they did, have had secondary (rather than directly physical) destructive impact on Romulus. If perhaps, there were two simultaneous crises requiring Red Matter, but only so much to go around, and Spock's logic was responsible for the choice "not to save" Romulus, because for instance the threat at Hobus affected more worlds ("needs of the many," etc.). Or alternatively, that Spock's two decades of Unification activism may have had a political impact on Romulus that left them weakened or unprepared (e.g. militarily) to address some secondary impact of the Hobus event. Could Romulus's society have collapsed, or some sort of political revolution have occurred that was in some way catalyzed or tied into the Hobus event (thus, "destroying" the Romulus that Nero knew). What I'm getting at here is to determine if it is absolutely, positively, established in canon beyond any doubt or room for interpretation, that the planet Romulus was physically destroyed and exploded / burned up, etc, or is there any breathing room for a possible alternative interpretation of the story relayed by Spock and Nero in on-screen dialogue regarding the catastrophic events of 2387? I'd like to get the thoughts of TrekBBS people on this issue, and then re-watch the movie myself. And FYI, anyone who mentions things we saw in flashback as evidence is going to be reminded that Delta Vega is about a kilometre away from Vulcan in Spock's imagination.