concept art and set photos!

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies XI+' started by King Daniel Beyond, May 17, 2013.

  1. BillJ

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    That looks awful.
     
  2. publiusr

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    I guess that is where we disagree--I think it looks rather nice myself.
     
  3. OpenMaw

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    It's... safe.

    It's more or less the refit Enterprise with different warp engines. I mean, it's fine, but it's not exactly a fresh coat of paint. If you're going to change it, change it. If not, just take the original design and have it in the movie.


    I honestly like some of the other Ryan Church designs for the E before it was finalized in the film. The glowing inside/transparent skin of the entire engine in some of the concept art I thought was a really cool look. His concepts seemed to be a very strange mix of retro and future stuff.
     
  4. gerbil

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    I cannot emphasize enough how impressed I am that they chose to keep the leading edge of the nacelle pylons straight instead of sweeping them back. I love the way they sweep backward into the shuttle bay area. Sweeping the pylons back is such a cheap way to invoke motion. The first view we got of the ship is not necessarily her best angle. I like the way the secondary hull juts forward at the bottom, to be honest. It's an exaggeration of how the original ship's neck attached but it also conveys readiness.
     
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    I agree. I hope this Tim Flattery guy didn't get paid a whole lot for just basically changing the engines on a ship design he didn't even come up with himself.

    Unless of course he was paid to only do just that, which kinda lends credence to a suspicion I once had. One of the reasons why I hate the nuEnterprise design is that it looks more like it was designed by a committee rather than just one person (i.e. one guy designed the saucer, another guy designed the neck, another guy designed the secondary hull, another guy designed the engines, etc.), the end result being a hodgepodge of parts that don't quite go together correctly when assembled. I know Church takes credit for the finished design, but now I'm wondering if he just based his design on parts of the ship that others designed before him.
     
  6. King Daniel Beyond

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  7. BillJ

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    Except the one above is nowhere near as well done as Admiral Buzzkill's.
     
  8. beamMe

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    Those pylons on Flattery's design look a lot like the ones on Dennis' USS Concord mesh.
     
  9. DEWLine

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    I see that TrekCore is finally putting up screencaps.

    This one pointed out some interesting gear on the cockpit:

    Black Hole Analysis
    Near Infrared Mapping Spectrometer
    Extreme Ultraviolet Spectrum(?)
    Energetic Particle...(?)
     
  10. publiusr

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    Dig those toggle switches. Should have had some nixie tubes under the display too.
     
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  12. BillJ

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  13. DEWLine

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    Possibly, but I have my doubts. The transporter room from ST XI has a compartment number(?) starting with "M"...and the Medbay compartment number with a "G"...
     
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  14. BillJ

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    Using letters instead of numbers to identify the decks would be consistent with the first four TOS films.
     
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    Old news, though - see this thread from late May 2009

    A few weeks before that, the dryers had been spotted in screencaps of (at that time brand-new) background images from a page on the official site. I think there might also have been a TrekToday article about it, but I could be misremembering.
     
  18. trevanian

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    I think it looks a million times better than what we got, but given the tastes of the other creatives involved, I'm not surprised it got shitcanned. Flattery has done some good stuff on bad or unfavorably received shows, like MISSION TO MARS and SOLARIS, but this looks hot.
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  19. DEWLine

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    Taking that screencap out of its original context for a moment...would those umbilicals be boarding tubes, bulk-supply conduits or a combination of the two types?
     
  20. publiusr

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    Now to come to his defense, he did great work on SOLARIS
    http://io9.com/5578025/the-haunting-glow-of-tim-flatterys-solaris-concept-art/
    http://www.timflattery.com/work/solaris/

    Another angle of his trek design
    http://www.timflattery.com/work/star-trek/

    Now maybe you would have liked it better as the 1701-A? It might have been a better fit as that.

    I love different takes on the TMP era design
    http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/...dication-Class&p=580306&viewfull=1#post580306

    http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/...USS-Conviction&p=585568&viewfull=1#post585568

    This is why I love the Balson so much:
    http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/commandcruiser_balson.jpg

    Now imagine the nacelles with the front end similar to the Raan: http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/cruiser_raan.jpg

    The nacelles are longer though, and rather look like the side view here:
    http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/dreadnaught_starleague_reft.jpg
    http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/dreadnaught_dnx.jpg

    I think Justicar did those.

    I like how JJ made the Dreadnought -into Darkness a two nacelle beast, keeping the swan-like grace.

    Similar https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/treknographx_starship_design/photos/albums/1831657996
     
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