Discussion in 'Voyager' started by KaraBear, Aug 15, 2013.
That statement can hold literally true for either side of the argument.
...and Kirk would of course brought Spock and McCoy back and been heralded for it.
One was a transporter accident.
The Doctor wanted to root into his brain to get his mobile emitter back.
Apparently he wasn't allowed to, because One was a real person who it would have been naughty to murder.
One wasn't created from the loss of someone else's life.
there is no point in this argument
if she hadn't reverted Tuvix back to being Neelix and Tuvok there would probably be just as much arguing about her still being a murderer for letting Neelix and Tuvok die. This is a no win situation
Maybe the writers would have been better off not making the episode in the first place?
Well I liked Tuvix more than Tuvok and Neelix- a happy, talented guy. Neelix gets to me after his third sentence each show and Tuvok just didn't work for me...
Voyager was an uneven show- some great moments but it was like too many people pulling in different directions- if they had kept to their original premise and showed a struggle to keep the ship going instead of repainting it between shows...
why? they wrote an episode that people are still passionately talking about 20 years later. I would call that success
Na, it's like Death Wish... makes you ponder.
i know a lot of people give this one a hard time too, but I love Death Wish.
Tuvok is willing to kill himself under ideal (the opposite really.) conditions.
Although, blindness didn't seem to be a valid qualifier for suicide unless I should reexamine his shaving scenes again in Year of Hell that every day he mentally flipped a coin to decide whether to shave or slit.
One of my favorite "trial" episodes in trek. Much better than Measure of a Man for sure.
you think blindnss is something worth killing youself over?
But according to the episode Tuvix, Data did not need a trial... Picard, or an Admiral above him, could have just unilaterally said "bullshit, you're a robot."
The Trial with Quinn was a massive Prime Directive violation.
Janeway radically altered the nature of a foreign alien species because she believed she was morally superior.
But then it was a request for asylum which seems to be a reacharound, but not all asylum requests are automatically honoured and accepted... But Janeway must have facepalmed the following year when she saw that she had started a civil war and should have in hindsight been able to see where this was precipitating when she directed verdict... Stopping a war is just as bad as starting one, or taking sides since how you stop a war determines the climate, stability and duration of the peace.
No and neither does Tuvok it would seem.
In theory there is a line of infirmity after which it is crossed that Tuvok will space himself.
If the blindness did mean that he couldn't do his job any more, it's possible that would be a level of infirmity that he might find intolerable. More so being "useless" to Janeway than actually being blind.
It was just the first thing that came to me when I wondered has Tuvok ever been really frakked up?
I should have used the dementia that turned him into a loon in End Game.
By the time he was too far gone he wouldn't have been mentally competent enough to be allowed to commit suicide by his doctors, and while he still had time, he was too arrogant to see how little time he had.
God man, are you high?
Well I do look down my nose at most people.
Does that count?
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