Charlie X

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  1. BillJ

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    Charlie Evans simply could never be reintegrated into society. It would be like turning Gary Mitchell loose in society.
     
  2. Gojira

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    Didn't the Thasians repair the damage Charlie had done? So other than those on the Antares everyone Charlie harmed on the Enterprise was restored.
     
  3. Timewalker

    Timewalker Cat-lovin', Star Trekkin' Time Lady Premium Member

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    But that's the point. The Antares crew was dead. The woman (and anyone else) who suffocated because Charlie literally deleted their noses and mouths, would presumably not have been brought back - because they were DEAD.

    It would have been a terrifying death, as they couldn't breathe, couldn't call for help, and couldn't even see to try to go for help. They'd have had less than 2 minutes, tops, and that's only if they'd immediately held their breath as soon as it happened.

    About the only chance they'd have had would be if some other crew came by and got them immediate help, or if they'd grabbed a knife and cut into their own heads to open a way - any way - to get oxygen into their lungs.

    Any way you look at it, this was a truly horrible thing, and I can't see anyone who could do such actions as being redeemable.
     
  4. Nine of Four

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    I agree whole-heartedly. Charlie killed approximately 30 people, and would most certainly serve a life sentence if he was ever accepted back into society.
     
  5. Gojira

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    I didn't get that idea from the episode. I got the impression all those harmed on the Enterprise were restored.

    Not that you're wrong, because what they said at the end was ambiguous.
     
  6. Foxhot

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    During the above-mentioned scene the only sounds after Charlie leaves are from the faceless woman. The men's shadows are clearly frozen. I'd guess they were given the same temporary treatment Kirk and Spock were given the moment Charlie left his brig, if they were lucky.

    He's seems much angrier with the crewwomen. Not just Ensign Faceless, but Yeomans Rand and ''Lizard'' Lawton, the yellow uniformed woman who ages 50 years in two seconds, plus the final frozen woman in the corridor. Misogynist resentment on his part?
    Don't forget Uhura was practically electrocuted at her console as well.
     
  7. Timo

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    Not in the TOS context, he wouldn't. He would be sent to get therapy in an asylum, and if that didn't work, he'd be sent to Elba II until he got cured (which might be life, but apparently would only be until "Whom Gods Destroy" when an universal cure for the final incurables appears to be introduced). No set length of incarceration, no punitive angle to it.

    I mean, look what happened to Lenore Karidian. She murdered half a dozen people, and got the therapy. Probably folks like "Lethe" were mass murderers or worse, too, before receiving their therapy; it's just that Dr. Adams practiced a variant of it that wasn't exactly accepted, and got poor Lethe as the result. Other asylums would produce better reformed murderers.

    As an aside, oxygen deprivation probably isn't that big a problem in the TOS era: lungs can be entirely bypassed and tri-ox injected into the blood instead. And it's something found in every paramedic's pouch, apparently. So rescue before extensive brain damage is certainly a possibility, although far from a given.

    Timo Saloniemi
     
  8. Foxhot

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    You REALLY believe they'd go to all that trouble to save a non-regular?:cool:
     
  9. Gary Mitchell

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  10. Push The Button

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    I have always hated Charlie as a character. He is much less likable than any Klingon or Romulan that appeared in the original series, and even villains of the week like Khan, Apollo, Roger Korby, Kodos and Flint were more sympathetic.
     
  11. ZapBrannigan

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    The horrible things Charlie did to people don't really fit with the general tone of the series. You could argue that the show hadn't entirely found itself yet. Charlie's atrocities were a growing pain that would not reflect the future course of the series.
     
  12. Warped9

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    Charlie behaved like a spoiled brat whose powers allowed him to act on impulse with terrible consequences. His whole life he developed no impulse control and no empathy whatsoever for others simply because he hadn't needed to because of his isolation.

    In more familiar terms imagine an indulged youth with the means and privilege to do whatever he pleased and without any consideration for others.

    It's not surprising he would be a hard character to sympathize or identify with.
     
  13. Ssosmcin

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    Or an office boner.
     

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