Charlie X

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  1. Nine of Four

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    The explosive second episode
     
  2. Nine of Four

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    Does anyone think Charlie can ever be accepted into society??
     
  3. BillJ

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    Nope.
     
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    I'd reply but Charlie took away my face . . . .:)
     
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    But he was but a child in Human terms. In time, he could have matured.
     
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    Without killing everyone around him? I don't think so, with his uncontrollable temper. It's like that classic Twilight Zone story where Billy Mumy wishes people into the cornfield.
     
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    He might have matured beyond his anger issues, but his incredible naïveté was what was causing it, and you don't lose your naïveté by being cooped up without any outside contact for however long.
     
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    How many people are you going to allow him to kill and maim while he matures?
     
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    The real problem was he wasn't just a normal human person. The Thasians had given him powers so that he could survive on their world. Those powers apparently could not be taken away, so even if he learned to be socialized, there was still the risk he could be dangerous. He could have destroyed the Enterprise as easily as he did the Antares.
     
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    Well, how about 3,429? They need not be real people, of course - surely the Thasians can arrange for simulations.

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    It's too bad they couldn't get Robert Walker Jr for that.
     
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    That scene is why I will never watch this episode again. It's the stuff of nightmares. That woman would have suffocated, since she had no way to breathe! My grandfather was watching it with me, and he was shocked. This was back around 1975-1976, and I still remember what he said: "That's horrible!"
     
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    It is a shocking scene particularly for that era of television. Yes, she would have died rather quickly.
     
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    Presumably medical could have inserted a breathing tube into her neck and hopefully the Thasians undid the damage.

    Could any of us be trusted with Charlie X's powers. I think I would be good and benevolent for a while. You know solving world hunger, creating space ships, destroy all nuclear weapons, guns etc.
    But eventually I suppose I'd be knocking off people who annoyed me once I had ultimate power. Really I'm not that bad a person but it would probably happen..:lol:
     
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    All it would take is a traffic jam on the way to work to set Charlie off.
     
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    That's if somebody got to her quickly enough. There's no evidence in the episode that anyone even noticed her distress. It was certainly never mentioned or shown later. If the Thasians didn't whisk her off to wherever the "disappeared" people went (presumably they were safe there, since Janice and the guy from the gym came back unharmed), that's yet another crewmember who was killed and nobody noticed.
     
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    My father showed me that episode when I was six. Luckily, he covered my eyes at that scene, or I might have been scarred for life.

    -:borg:
     
  19. Warped9

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    Well when Charlie defaced her (so to speak) she was among a group of people laughing out of sight behind the bulkhead so she wasn't actually alone. But given everyone laughing stopped when Charlie did his thing we can assume he "defaced" them all. We only saw the one woman come around the corner, but we can assume her companions were in much the same condition.
     
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    If Charlie were ever integrated back into society, and Starfleet decided he had killed those people, Charlie would have to serve time in a prison, which couldn't end well.

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