Castle Season 5 (including Spoilers)

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  1. FPAlpha

    FPAlpha Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Awesome.. i figured the Castle storyline out about halfway of the show (well.. i had a pretty solid feeling it would play out like that partly because i would have done the same :devil:) but that didn't take away the fun.

    Props to the Marlowe/Miller cameo (the man and woman early on when Castle starts to use the binoculars to peep on his neighbors).. they are the producers/writers of the show and it was funny that Castle thinks they are writers too.

    Indeed.. 100 cases and hopefully to a hundred more! :techman::beer:
     
  2. Christopher

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    I suspected what the final twist in the Rear Window case would turn out to be, but I wasn't invested enough in the story to care that much either way. I'm just getting sick of these "Castle has a wacky theory that nobody else believes" episodes; the "killer video" episode a couple of weeks ago was the shark-jump moment for me, and even though this one had a cute twist on it, I'm just sick of seeing it. Seriously, when I saw the promo and learned that next week's case involves
    Bigfoot,
    I was literally yelling "No, not again!" at the screen. This has become his thing now, increasingly overshadowing everything else about his character. In TV Tropes lingo, he's been Flanderized. I'm honestly not sure I even want to watch next week.

    Alexis made a good Grace Kelly, though.
     
  3. Forbin

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    ^I yelled "Not again" too. At the same time. I'm surprised enough people didn't that we would have heard a general roar.
     
  4. Kestrel

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    Another delightful little episode - the twist (which I also didn't guess till the lights went out) about the birthday party made it. :D

    Even though the show probably won't make it to 200 (how many do after all), it's been a great 100 so far. Yay for Caskett! :luvlove:
     
  5. Greg Cox

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    I gotta admit: I'm looking forward to the Bigfoot episode. I actually prefer the wackier, more off-the-wall plots. There are plenty of NYC-based cop shows where the detectives run down relatively mundane murderers. But I can't see them doing Bigfoot on Law & Order!
     
  6. Kirby

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    ^^ I'm with you. I watch Law & Order for a realistic procedural. Most Castle episodes aren't even remotely realistic, but they are fun.
     
  7. Mark_Nguyen

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    To wit - Castle is now on the Canadian "Space" channel, which is analogous to Syfy. Now all they need is CSI Miami and the recent science-fiction police procedural set is complete. :P

    Mark
     
  8. Aragorn

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    Well according to the Castle threads on this forum, the depiction of a mystery author who is a full-time unarmed partner of a cop for free is inaccurate. :lol:
     
  9. Skywalker

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    I definitely prefer the wackier side of Castle, too. In fact I was actually kind of disappointed that they still managed to include a generic murder mystery into this past episode, I would have liked it turned out that this was the one episode where there weren't actually any murders to investigate at all.
     
  10. Kirby

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    Dumbest Castle episode ever. This one feels like they had a bunch of 'spare parts' sitting around and just threw them all into one episode. It also didn't help that my local station showed about 5 minutes of Jimmy Kimmel's monologue half way through the episode.
    I'm not sure about next week's episode either. At least Beckett's not sitting on a toilet...
     
  11. bigdaddy

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    The episode was boring, and felt odd without the boss around, like it was a missing season 1 episodes, but that they were dating.
     
  12. Christopher

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    They really have retconned Castle's character now, from someone who pretends to believe in supernatural mumbo-jumbo to mess with Beckett to someone who sincerely believes in everything. And I still say it's out of character for a mystery writer to be so unskeptical. The mentality of mystery writing is all about revealing the truth behind the illusions, showing how the tricks are done.

    Although, when was the last time they even mentioned Castle's books on the show? They're still churning out Nikki Heat novels in real life, but the cross-promotion they used to get on the show is almost nonexistent anymore.

    I figured out who the killer was right off the bat, although the episode surprisingly failed to follow up on the obvious clue they gave us. The gorilla was clearly a witness to the murder and was trying to communicate to Castle that one of the sanctuary employees was the killer -- most likely the one who was doing all the talking. They went to all the trouble to set that up -- not only making a point of having a character say that the gorilla was friendly and harmless, thus establishing its behavior as an anomaly, but even going to the expense of obtaining and using a gorilla costume with an animatronic face in order to create the scene -- and then never followed up on it. It's bizarre.

    I would've been happier if they'd left the Bigfoot stuff out of it and had Castle trying to convince the other cops that the gorilla was the witness they needed to interview. That way he'd still be trying to convince the cops of an idea that the layperson might find implausible, but it would be one that made sense and was scientifically grounded. Indeed, I wonder if that was the original idea behind the episode, which then got rewritten into the goofier Bigfoot scenario, with the gorilla scene carelessly left in as a plot orphan.

    Now that I think of it, the second sanctuary employee in those early scenes, the one who looked Native American, struck me as a character who seemed likely to have some significance in the story. The camera and direction called attention to his reactions enough to give the impression that he had something personal at stake. But he never reappeared. I wonder if this episode had not only rewrites but reshoots; it seems very awkwardly put together.

    I'm very worried by the preview for next week.
    "Their lives flash before their eyes?" Good grief, they're doing a clip show? This is what they've sunk to now?
     
  13. Pingfah

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    Oh my goodness that was awful. I'm starting to really dislike Castle's character now, I hate people that blather on about superstitious nonsense and conspiracies. And Beckett and the other Police just wouldn't stand for it, because it's a waste of their time.

    And everything they needed to get out of that hole without a rope fell in there with them!
     
  14. Admiral_Young

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    I am behind still...but I have had a bad feeling that this will be the show's last season the way things have been going. The ratings haven't been that great (although I haven't checked what they are since we returned from hiatus). Even I haven't really felt this season. It started off okay, but seems to have trailed off significantly since then. I predict they will wrap up the JB murder case and then either a wedding for Kate and Rick unless Marlowe chooses not to go that route with the two of them in case it does get picked up for one last season.
     
  15. bigdaddy

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    Umm... the show wins the night in both demo and total audience every week, their ratings will easily get them a 6th season.

    I don't think it was as bad as everyone else. I only started watching the show in January, but watch 5-8 episodes a week and there have been some really lame, roll your eye moments. I think it's just because it's the worst episode in awhile you guys and gals are being overly hard on it.

    An ABC press release....

    It was beat last night because of the special on NBC dealing with the bombings.
     
  16. Admiral_Young

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    Actually this is really the first time that I personally have felt like some of the others in the thread...I've been mainly positive and encouraging of this season, and as I said I still am behind and have to catch up, but this season has been a little off at times. I also mentioned that I hadn't checked the ratings since winter hiatus...so if they've improved since the first half of the season that's awesome.
     
  17. Christopher

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    It wasn't bad if you like a show whose hero is a grown-up Shaggy Rogers. I actually liked the scene where Castle and Beckett talked about their respective views on belief; there was some beautiful writing there. I just object to the way the show has retconned Castle into something he wasn't before, even to the point of directly contradicting past episodes where he admitted he only pretended to buy into the fanciful theories. They've taken something that was originally just a minor quirk of his sense of humor and blown it up into his defining feature as a character. I miss the version of the show that was about a mystery novelist, rather than the live-action Scooby-Doo series it seems to be turning into lately. I miss the version of the show where the cases were distinctive because of their elaborate, clever twists and turns rather than because of the supernatural hoax of the week or the vast conspiracies that have now engulfed both Beckett's and Castle's backstories.
     
  18. Vendikarr

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    I started watching this one last night, and got through the teaser, when Castle invoked the name "Bigfoot." I then remembered what this one was to center around. I said "screw it" to myself and went to bed. I figured I would see how it turned out by checking the forums.

    The consensus seems to indicate it's another waste of time episode, so I'll just delete it off my TiVo and I'll try and catch next week's episode.

    Thanks for saving me forty-two minutes of my time.
     
  19. Kestrel

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    Meh, so much complaining. :lol:

    It was a fairly filler episode, so not much to say about it either way. Fun enough but certainly not very memorable - "assembled from spare parts" seems a decent way to describe it. I'm just glad it didn't end up being the Bigfoot hunter, and I can keep up my streak of "I haven't been able to identify the killer because of recognizing him/her from elsewhere" that other people seem to run into so often. :p

    Also, I'm not sure how I would have felt if Jiminy Cricket (or even better, Kaiden Alenko) was the killer. :eek: Though - now they've had Garrus and Kaiden, who's up for having Miranda or Anderson or - even better! - FemShep guest star? :D (Why yes, I have been playing a lot of Mass Effect lately, why do you ask?)

    Also, Castle and Beckett in bed together... "D'aww...."
     
  20. Skywalker

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    It was definitely a silly filler episode, and a mostly lame one at that, but I still got a chuckle or two out of it. Glad to see I wasn't the only one who recognized Raphael Sbarge. I also recognized the first suspect they interviewed from Band of Brothers.