CAPTAIN AMERICA-shooting July 2010:Casting, Rumors, Pics till release

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  1. Skywalker

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    Gerard Butler is a Brit.
     
  2. Obiwanshinobi

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    he was born in scotland, he's got a scottish accent. how does that make him a Brit? Unless he lives there, but come on. I'm only going off his wikipedia page and IMDB, which says he was born in Paisley, Scotland. I've even seen him do an interview on the Craig Ferguson show, saying so. But you could be right man, although I beg to differ.
     
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    haha i didnt realize there was a difference. I didn't know you didn't have to be British to be a Brit. My bad people!
     
  4. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

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    Scots are British citizens as they live in the United Kingdom of Great Britan (aka England, Scotland and Wales) and Northern Ireland
     
  5. Obiwanshinobi

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    ahhh ok. That's right! i forgot about the whole UK collective. many apologies. I've heard Gerard Butler's name being tossed around to play Caps too. I've always saw him playing somebody like Black Tom in the X-Men Universe. With somebody like Cillian Murphey playing Banshee, although he might be too young.
     
  6. Captaindemotion

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    'Brit' comes from British. Butler is Scottish, part of Great Britain, and therefore qualified. Colin Farrell comes from the Republic of Ireland and does not therefore qualify as a Brit by any standard or reckoning. The confusion is entirely yours.
     
  7. Chaos Descending

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    Ireland is one of the "British Isles".

    You're welcome. ;)

    EDIT: Yes, although this post does contain a true factoid, it is in fact meant in jest.
     
  8. Bad Bishop

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    Hardly. Take a moment to read my precise words again. I didn't call Colin Farrell a "Brit" or British (and I wouldn't call any Irishman a "Brit" to his face, for fear of getting my ass kicked). I said that Farrell is weak when it comes to speaking with an American accent. Any additional implications are all in your mind.
     
  9. Admiral Buzzkill

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    They've got to have a title they can successfully promote overseas, because they can't make the money they want to based only on domestic American box office. And "America" does not mean many good things throughout most of the world.
     
  10. Aragorn

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    Isn't that what having different titles overseas is for? Some countries know of Jack Palance's Oscar-winning performance from "Life, Love and Cows."
     
  11. Admiral Buzzkill

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    Sure, but promotion is probably easier if "First Avenger" can be used all over the place.
     
  12. Bad Bishop

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    "Most of the world"? How do you know?
     
  13. Captaindemotion

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    No it's not. That's a term which has no legal, historical or geographical basis. If it has any definition, it's Great Britain, the Isle of Man, the Channel Islands and the Islands off Scotland, the Shetlands etc. Not Ireland.

    And we in Ireland simply don't like it.

    As Bad Bishop pointed out in his reply to me, he wouldn't call an Irishman a Brit to his face for fear of getting his ass kicked.

    BB, in the context of your post, it was reasonable to assume that you were lumping Farrell in with the Brits. But I note your clarification.
     
  14. Chaos Descending

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    Yes it is. Sorry to burst your bubble.

    That part is laughably indefensible.

    That's the spirit!
     
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    Wikipedia, among others, would disagree at there being no "historical or geographic basis". It's certainly, though, a term that's fallen out of use subsequent to the assocation of "Britain" exclusively with the UK and the independence of the Republic of Ireland. Not wholly different from Canadians and Mexicans being "American" in the sense of the American continent, in that it's technically true but has issues due to the association with the USA (usually somebody would say "North American").

    Some big news, on an actual movie-related front.

    Counting Cap and Bucky, that's four members left; Union Jack's a given (John or Brian, I wonder?), he's of a similar powerset and makes an obvious counterpoint to Cap himself. Don't know about the rest (they're described as being representatives of European countries, which the Invaders never really were in the comics; foreign membership was primarily two Brits and an Atlantean; maybe they're planning to make up a few new characters to represent France, Poland, or wherever?).

    I'll be interested to see if they're planning to bring in other characters with genuine super-powers. I mean, if the Brits have a chick who can run at the speed of sound, how impressive does that really make Steve look? Conversely, having such obviously superhuman people might give Steve a chance to demonstrate just how important he is, even if he's not the most physically powerful
     
  16. Happy Xmas (War Is Over)

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    The Invaders in the second half of the film? Wouldn't that be the part set in the modern era? Or am I wrong in thinking there will be a time shift?
     
  17. Chaos Descending

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    I would think that the film will not take place at ALL in the "Modern Era". I assume the movie will end with whatever mechanism the film writers choose that will send Steve Rogers into the present, which would segue into the beginning of The Avengers in which Steve Rogers is found in the present and has to adapt to the modern world.
     
  18. Bad Bishop

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    In the comics, Cap spends many years frozen in a chunk of ice, surviving until he is found and revived by the Avengers.

    Is the "chunk of ice" idea still good enough for modern audiences, or does this beg for a rewrite?
     
  19. CaptainCanada

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    The Ultimates kept the frozen thing, and it's fairly iconic, so I doubt they'll change it (he's got advanced biology, and the idea of the frozen man occurs a lot in pop culture).

    They're not doing the timeskip. From what Johnston has said, there's going to be a prologue and an epilogue in the present day, but the actual story is all-World War II.
     
  20. Professor Zoom

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    Song and Dance cap?

    Woah.

    From the Director...

    Emphasis mine.

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