Caprica - Grading & Discussion

Discussion in 'Battlestar Galactica & Caprica' started by Agent Richard07, Apr 14, 2009.

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Grade the pilot...

  1. Excellent

    35.3%
  2. Above Average

    43.0%
  3. Average

    13.0%
  4. Below Average

    4.3%
  5. Poor

    4.3%
  1. JCBos

    JCBos Commander Red Shirt

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    Yes, the DVD has commentary from Ron Moore, David Eick and director Jeffrey Reiner, as well as deleted scenes.
     
  2. Michael Chris

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    sigh
     
  3. ATimson

    ATimson Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    So is Moore still executive producer and developer of the new Battlestar Galactica? ;)
     
  4. Peacemaker

    Peacemaker Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Thanks for the admission that you're the troll. Note that for the public record, you accused somebody else of being a troll because, in your opinion, he's a fundamentalist Christian, yet here you admit to being a troll. Kudos, and you're only at the rank of Ensign. Your time on this board doesn't bode well for you.

    You're confusing biblical Christianity with moralism and legalism. Biblical Christianity doesn't preclude "watching stuff that utterly spits on the Bible in some places." Of course, if you actually understood the views that you're trolling you'd know that, but you don't, a shining example of self-reinforcing ignorance.
     
  5. Samuel T. Cogley

    Samuel T. Cogley Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Hold still, Jim.
    I kind of feel sorry for the dude. In one of the video blogs on the DVD, he says something to the effect of:

    "What I... What Ron and I really wanted to make sure we did..."

    It's pretty clear that this was his baby and that now he has to act like it was he and Ron's idea. Then again, if it wasn't attached to BSG, it's possible that it would never have been made at all.
     
  6. WeAreTheBorg

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    Just got around to watching this... my hopes were mild to say the least, but boy, it was actually really great. The texture of the 12 colonies is just so great... and it all felt very BSG despite being so different in concept and in setting. When Joe Adama was talking to William and Bear's score that he always used for Adama/Lee scenes popped up I almost teared up a little, because at that moment I realized that BSG is... in a sense... living on. Which is a funny little idea considering the theme of this pilot.

    I guess we're also seeing how the one true god concept got started by centurions. Zoey is a Cylon!

    One nitpick: The suggestion that the human brain only holds 300 megabytes of information... isn't that kind of absurd? The human brain holds a vastly superior pool of information than any computer ever could, our only limitations are access... and even that is vast. Also the kind of "information" in the human brain cannot be so easily translated into a computer term like bytes... it's apples and oranges.

    Oh and finally: Turns out Bill Adama was 47 years old as of the miniseries, and therefore just 51 in Daybreak. I thought he was older than that... I would have guessed around 58-60 (i.e. 54-58 in the mini)
     
  7. Gep Malakai

    Gep Malakai Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Eh? Bill is 11 in Caprica, and it's set 58 years before the Fall. So at the time of the Cylon attack against the colonies, he was 58+11=69 years old.
     
  8. WeAreTheBorg

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    ....

    Wow, how did I make that mistake? I subtracted instead of adding. Smrt.
     
  9. hyzmarca

    hyzmarca Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Since the brain is analog, measurement in terms of bytes is meaningless, but storage is finite, particularly in memory. It's also very unreliable, as we augment our finite memory capacity with our imaginations. Most of us quickly forget unimportant details, only remembering the broad strokes of important events.
     
  10. WeAreTheBorg

    WeAreTheBorg Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Okay, but it's fairly well known that any memory of your life can be recovered with perfect detail under the right psychological conditions. There are people who have suffered strokes or traumas or that were born with brain defects that have infinite memory of their entire life and every fact they encounter. I surmise from this that the difference is we cannot access everything, but it is still there.

    But I'm not a neurologist, so maybe I'm way off.
     
  11. Spaceman Spiff

    Spaceman Spiff Abuse of Power Administrator

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    Here's an equally easy warning for trolling.
     
  12. Bishbot

    Bishbot Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I understand that not everything you watch has to gel with your beliefs - that makes sense and is sensible - no-one agrees 100% with everything they watch or read. You have to admit it is a bit strange, however, that Michael Chris watched the whole of BSG, which had some scenes very comparable to what we got in Caprica, but has now decided to throw in the towel?
     
  13. Jim Steele

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    I loved it and I really wasn't expecting to. Don't know where they're going to go with a series but I'm looking forward to finding out.


    Off topic, fuck me I'm glad to be an atheist.

    Oh wait... that means I can't enjoy Caprica now. :rolleyes:
     
  14. cultcross

    cultcross The truth is precisely the opposite Moderator

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    I think it was more the fact that Caprica actually opened with a scene of gratuitous (for TV) sex and violence. I have to admit, it had me thinking ":wtf:" and I'm no prude. I could understand why it would put people off, especially as the opening v-club sequence goes on for some time. The trick, of course, is to stick with it and understand that the reaction you had is exactly the one they were trying for.
     
  15. Roshi

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    Funny how some viewers went :wtf: with those two tiny scenes when I went :niiiiice: instead.
     
  16. Ayelbourne

    Ayelbourne Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    :lol:

    Do they share some info on the Greystone Residence as well? I could swear it's Baltar's house again, although the interior looks bigger.
     
  17. Gregsmack

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    ^ I don't think it's Baltar's house but I'm not completely sure. From what I saw, it looked similar, and is probably a house in some neighborhood where all the rich, genius scientists go to live.

    A fan more observant to this kind of thing will probably be able to tell you for sure, though.
     
  18. backstept

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    it may be the same place, shot from different angles, or it could be a house nearby, or even all on a soundstage with the exterior shots comped in with plates shot somewhere at Lion's Bay
     
  19. cultcross

    cultcross The truth is precisely the opposite Moderator

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    Given that both houses are in Caprica City, odds are its the same lake. I don't know why everyone's surprised by it, actually. The interior of the house looks completely different, the similarity is it has a balcony, big windows, and the lake outside. There could easily be a 30 mile road of such buildings in Caprica City along the shore.

    Daniel is after all in very similar position to Baltar at the start of BSG. He's a well respected and well off scientist with ties to the defence department.
     
  20. backstept

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    though Baltar seemed to be a consultant and celebrity genious like Einstein, and Greystone is a famous inventor sort of like Steve Jobs