Canon characters killed in lit-verse. (spoilers)

Discussion in 'Trek Literature' started by E-DUB, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. JD

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    I've been here the whole time this has been going on, so I know what's been said. All I'm trying to say is that you're jumping to way to many conclusions here. I'm not one to start getting all crazy and paranoid over one incident.
     
  2. Sci

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    I should mention that it's worth considering the extremely low probability that a relatively unimportant character's death (in a book that established most of the characters and settings used in later books featuring the Federation Presidency) doesn't seem like the sort of thing that's likely to be contradicted later on. It's not like anyone's chomping at the bit to write Star Trek: The Further Adventures of Jaresh-Inyo in the Twenty-Fourth and a Half Century.
     
  3. JD

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    Exactly. I just don't see the people behind the books being that vindictive.
     
  4. Edit_XYZ

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    For someone who knows what's been said, you sure are eager to misrepresent the facts "I think it's also worth pointing out that the issue with IfM had nothing to do with the author, it was the content."
    Indeed, your eagerness to go the 'see no evil hear no evil speak no evil' route is quite interesting.

    As for 'too many conclusions' - these 'conclusions' are a quite limited inference from the facts as presented (DG3's method of rushed conclusions - for both authors - was too slow; ignore became the rule - so far, confirmed for only one author).
     
  5. Edit_XYZ

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    Sci

    My first post on this thread should make it clear that it is on a tangent to the threat title (one of many previous ones, in this forum).
    If you have a problem with this - you must have a problem with a LOT of threads here.
     
  6. Sci

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    It's more than just a tangent -- it comes straight out of nowhere and has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic at hand. I don't understand why you're bringing up the question of what aspects of books from authors who are "on the out" might be contradicted here instead of the actual threads dedicated to the topic of authors being on the out.

    It's the equivalent of bringing up the new James Bond movie in a thread about Les Misérables but ignoring the actual Skyfall thread.
     
  7. JD

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    EDIT: Sci's right, and since I've remembered how pointless it is to argue with you I'm done.
     
  8. Edit_XYZ

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    So - talking about the future alive/dead prospects of a canon character is not a tangent - indeed, exactly on the subject of this thread for you, yes, Sci?
    OK.
     
  9. JD

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    I want to apologize for my lack of self control and dragging this thread farther off topic than it should have gotten. Sorry.
     
  10. Sci

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    So, Jaresh-Inyo died in Articles. And of course, McCoy died in Crucible.
     
  11. Edit_XYZ

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    Read the post I already repeated once. And then the thread you claim to know.

    Also, you went from "we don't know for a fact that that is why they chose to ignore IFM" to "All we know for sure is that instead of trying to explain away the stuff with Ogawa, Barclar, and the La Forge/Brahms pairing they decided to ignore them." in the same post.
    'don't know for a fact' and 'we know for sure' are contradictory, JD.

    Your 'see no evil hear no evil speak no evil' just went into high gear.
    Who are you trying to convince, JD? Yourself?
     
  12. Sci

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    Oh! I forgot -- Amanda Greyson was killed in Crucible: Spock - The Fire and the Rose.
     
  13. King Daniel Beyond

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    Her second Treklit demise, after Ann Crispin's Sarek.

    Oh, and Trelane died in Peter David's Q-Squared.
     
  14. Sci

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    Kieran Duffy was killed in SCE: Wildfire by David Mack.
     
  15. JD

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    Ke Hovath from DS9's "The Storyteller" died in "Fragments and Omens".
     
  16. Paris

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    If memory serves, Katherine Janeway died in PAD's Before Dishonor ;)
     
  17. T'Bonz

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    While it's nice to include a spoiler, it's not mandatory after this length of time.

    (I'm one of the mods in here now, BTW.)
     
  18. Therin of Andor

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    Ed S. has been part of the "Star Trek" editorial team for many years. He edited numerous "New Frontier" novels while Marco was busy with DS9 and Margaret was concentrating on non fiction tie-ins.
     
  19. lvsxy808

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    Minor nitpick - that scene was actually in The Soul Key. He first reappeared in F&O, though.

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  20. Greg Cox

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    For the record, Ed has been editing Star Trek novels since at least 2005. He took over editing my Khan books after John Ordover departed. So he's not exactly "new."