Cannonising the Kelvin

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  1. Pegasus

    Pegasus Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    Avery Class Concept,and registries by Richard Martin. Parallel development of Kelvin/Saladin Conversion by Kenneth Thomson Jr. based on original 3d Studio model by Thomas Phong.

    If you can convert the pictures below into proper diagrams, please pm me.


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    AVERY CLASS TOS and TMP
    (CONJECTURAL CLASS AND NAMES)
    (NOTE: SOME NAMES ARE FROM JACKILL'S SHIPS OF THE FLEET VOLUME1, MOVED FROM THE 500'S DOWN, and FASA).

    Ships with no text after it have either been placed in scapyards or given to Federation civilian organizations.
    [LEFT]NCC 450 AVERY Missing in action.
    NCC 451 MARTIN
    NCC 452 KENT
    NCC 453 LITTORIO
    NCC 454 TRENT
    NCC 455 TICONDEROGA LOST IN THE LINE OF DUTY.
    NCC 456 GUANNADA
    NCC 457 ALLEYNE Destroyed in Romulan war
    NCC 458 DIEKMAN
    NCC 459 STRONG
    NCC 460 WILKES
    NCC 461 HARLEY
    NCC 462 BROOKINGS LOST IN THE LINE OF DUTY.
    NCC 463 QUIGLEY
    NCC 464 JOYNER
    NCC 465 THOMASON Destroyed in Romulan war.
    NCC 466 MCWHIRTER Destroyed in Romulan war.
    NCC 467 LINCOLN
    NCC 468 HAGGERTY
    NCC 469 PACKARD Destroyed in Romulan war.
    NCC 470 NIXON Destroyed in Romulan war.
    NCC 471 CLAXTON
    NCC 472 BISMARK
    NCC 473 RANCOR
    NCC 474 LEYAND Refit
    NCC 475 MURREL
    NCC 476 DANLEY Missing in action.
    NCC 477 EARL Missing in action.
    NCC 478 TREHLOW
    NCC 479 LEBLANC Refit
    NCC 480 WAYLANDER
    NCC 481 LEANING TOWER LOST IN THE LINE OF DUTY.
    NCC 482 BAVARIA
    NCC 483 LEGENTIUM
    NCC 484 TURNER
    NCC 485 FITZGERALD Missing in action.
    NCC 486 COLEBAUGH
    NCC 487 ROBBINER
    NCC 488 BOUDICCA Destroyed in Romulan war
    NCC 489 MOORE
    NCC 490 CASTLEORD Refit
    NCC 491 NASPYPANY
    NCC 492 NEAL
    NCC 493 T'LORRA Refit Missing in action.
    NCC 494 EARHEART
    NCC 495 BETRAS
    NCC 496 CANNON Refit Museumed.
    NCC 497 SUDRIAN Refit
    NCC 498 CAWLEY
    NCC 499 AUSTRALIA Refit
    NCC 514 KELVIN New TMP Ship. New TMP Ship later retrofitted in the 26th century for warp coil/feild tests.[/LEFT]

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  2. MisterPL

    MisterPL Commander Red Shirt

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  3. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Admiral Admiral

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    I honestly don't know what it is you're going on about, but you did the registry numbers the right way, so that makes you okay in my books.:techman:
     
  4. Pegasus

    Pegasus Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    It's in the same style as those on the Starfleet Museum website. It was the first one that came to mind, and it was that or a really crappy looking clip art bird feeder thing.

    "I thought I saw Bird Of Prey".

    And thankyou Wormhole! :) It's a class in canon for the Kelvin to belong to developed by me and Kenneth Thomson Jr.
     
  5. Pendragon

    Pendragon Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Give me a cannon and I'll cannonize the Kelvin. Otherwise, can we please spell 'canon' correctly?

    Whew...
     
  6. Pegasus

    Pegasus Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    Sorry, I have dsylrexsia
     
  7. Kpnuts

    Kpnuts Commodore Commodore

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    The registry number of the Kelvin has a zero preceeding it, you forgot to take account of that fact
     
  8. trekkerguy

    trekkerguy Commodore Commodore

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    Yup, your ship can't be canon. You left out the zero and are
    raping my fond memories of a proper registry number on my ship.

    As for the Kelvin being "Canonized", once it's on screen it's canon.
     
  9. Therin of Andor

    Therin of Andor Admiral Admiral

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    Dyslexics untie!
     
  10. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I like Kenneth's design and model a lot, but this has nothing to do with "canonizing" the Kelvin.

    The Kelvin is - or shortly will be - canon, just as it is. This TOS-ish design is not canon, and there's no specific reason to think that it ever will be.

    What's being done with this variant is just redesigning the Kelvin out of TOS components in order to make it fit more comfortably with what we're used to seeing these ships look like on TV. Canonicity simply doesn't enter into it.
     
  11. Mr. Laser Beam

    Mr. Laser Beam Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Don't let Badass Robau see this. He'd lay the smackdown on the whole universe. :evil:
     
  12. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    ROBAU: "Canonize this, mofo!"
     
  13. Red Ranger

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    Pegasus,

    Sorry to hear that. It does remind me of an old joke:

    How does a dyslexic insomniac agnostic pass the time?

    He sits up all night wondering if there really is a Dog!

    Ba-dump-dump!

    To really "cannonize" the Kelvin, you have to mount a bunch of turrets on it that fire photon cannonballs!

    Red Ranger
     
  14. Samuel T. Cogley

    Samuel T. Cogley Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Hold still, Jim.
    I don't really worry too much about canon.

    If I like it, it's in. If not, it's out. So easy! :techman:
     
  15. Admiral Buzzkill

    Admiral Buzzkill Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    My girlfriend has the same attitude.
     
  16. Samuel T. Cogley

    Samuel T. Cogley Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Hold still, Jim.
    About your cannon?
     
  17. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk The Real Me Premium Member

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    Its not the cannon, its the continuity.
     
  18. Pegasus

    Pegasus Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    BACK TO TOPIC!

    1. Having a 0 in front of the registry number actaully makes it UNCANNON!
    Name 4 canon ships with an 0 as the first number s there registry!
    Let me: THERE ARE NONE!

    2. You opinions are fine, but I see it like this: as the Kelvin is one of the only half decent things in the new fim,(and is liked more then the new Enterprise) it deserves to be canonised. Aren't those DS9 kitbashes canon?

    It is the only officail known Earth- Romulan war ship, and there are gaps in FASA which in the opinon of Ken Thompson Jr. He actually helped me with this because he agreed. He's even placing an avery class ship in Starship Saladin!
    Proof: http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/forum/index.php?topic=6649.0
    Proof: The Avery Class USS Leaning Tower in The Lost Outpost fanfiction: http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/forum/index.php?topic=6753.0

    Proof:
    http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/...Starship Saladin/USS_KELVIN/USS_AVERY_002.jpg

    http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/...Starship Saladin/USS_KELVIN/USS_AVERY_001.jpg

    http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/...Starship Saladin/USS_KELVIN/USS_AVERY_003.jpg

    http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/...ship Saladin/USS_KELVIN/StarboardPlanView.jpg

    See no 0 at the start!
     
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  19. Samuel T. Cogley

    Samuel T. Cogley Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Hold still, Jim.
    What the fuck is the point of all of this?

    I feel like Towelie.

    I have no idea what's going on...
     
  20. Pegasus

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    1. Having a 0 in front of the registry number actaully makes it UNCANNON!
    Name 4 canon ships with an 0 as the first number s there registry!
    Let me: THERE ARE NONE!

    2. You opinions are fine, but I see it like this: as the Kelvin is one of the only half decent things in the new fim,(and is liked more then the new Enterprise) it deserves to be canonised. Aren't those DS9 kitbashes canon?

    It is the only officail known Earth- Romulan war ship, and there are gaps in FASA which in the opinon of Ken Thompson Jr. He actually helped me with this because he agreed. He's even placing an avery class ship in Starship Saladin!
    Proof: [COLOR=#aabbcc]http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/fo...p?topic=6649.0[/COLOR]
    Proof: The Avery Class USS Leaning Tower in The Lost Outpost fanfiction:[COLOR=#aabbcc]http://www.startreknewvoyages.com/fo...p?topic=6753.0[/COLOR]
     
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