Budget cut/location change for Trek 3

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  1. King Daniel Beyond

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    http://trekmovie.com/2013/11/11/summer-box-office-budget-reduction-trek-3-tidbits/

    Similar is happening for Superman Vs. Batman. I don't think it'll make any difference - this isn't a big-budget-to-glorified-TV-movie downgrade like we got with Wrath of Khan.
     
  2. M'Sharak

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    Star Trek Into Vancouver?
     
  3. King Daniel Beyond

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    Maybe they'll beam down to Canadian Forest Planet from Stargate!:D
     
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    I've been seeing ads here on the site urging me to go to Prague, for some reason I can't fathom. Maybe that's where they'll film it.
     
  5. Cyrus

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    Sound like the budget is basically going to be the same as STiD ($20 million less but saved by shooting in a different location). And they got to be saving some money with the new director too.

    This is another indication that politicians in my home state (California) are idiots (as if there was any doubts before). They are driving away an industry that is globally associated with Hollywood/California. No wonder that despite some of highest taxes (income, property, consumption) in the country we still have yearly budget deficits.
     
  6. Melakon

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    It's not just the taxes that causes productions to move outside LA. The trade unions for actors and technical professionals also drive the costs up. Relocating production makes it easier for them to hire non-union crews, though at the risk of on-site pickets.
     
  7. Cinema Geekly

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    Not a shock at all. I'd expect the budget to shrink to no lower than Trek '09

    The only real shock is that they shot both in LA considering how that isn't really the industry norm these days, cheaper to shoot elsewhere. Vancouver, Detroit, Philly, and Atlanta all have better rates than LA.
     
  8. King Daniel Beyond

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    I guess, moving away from California, they'll have no choice but to change engineering - both the brewery guts of the ship (unless they go somewhere else with a brewery, of course!) and the NIF warp core.

    Good thing they had that refit at the end of ID.
     
  9. SeerSGB

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    Greenscreen...Greenscreen...Greenscreen! Damn it guys, you can have any engineering room you want!

    Brewgineering is the one thing I can't get past with the new movies. The NIF Core in STID was a huge upstep.

    Edit: Took me a while to find it: a TrekBBS Fanart Challenge had a engineering concept I loved.
     
  10. teacake

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    How dare they take money away from Star Trek!!!!!

    I wish they would film it in Sydney like ROTS. Then I could camp out and beg to be an extra.
     
  11. Christopher

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    Functionally speaking, they haven't. The thing is, what with the taxes in LA and the bloated and inefficient filmmaking industry in Hollywood, a lot of the budget of the past two movies didn't actually go into the movies themselves. Moving production out of LA lets them put the same amount of money on the screen while saving money overall.

    Really, though, I think cutting the budget would be a good thing. With a tighter budget, the next film might have to focus less on spectacle and effects and more on character and story. I think the Abrams films have done pretty well overall with the characters, but the last one had some action scenes that went too far overboard and didn't really feel necessary. I wouldn't mind seeing that stuff dialed back some.
     
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  13. Melakon

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    But then you'd have to sign a secrecy agreement and wouldn't be able to tell us about it. Or publish any on-set pictures. Would you survive?
     
  14. SeerSGB

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    I don't know, I could have fun with that. "OMG! You should see the [redacted] and when you see it on the screen with [redacted]...you don't know how amazing this is. Gotta go, [redacted] jsut bought the extras lunch for all the hard work we did filming [redacted]"
     
  15. DEWLine

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    We have unions in Canada, allied with their US counterparts in several cases, depending on specific disciplines. But that's not often considered cause for fiscal concern from the US production companies' perspective, apparently. And the VFX houses up here are as competent as anyone elsewhere on the planet.
     
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    I have a friend who was on the set for Anakin falling into the lava in ROTS. He had to sign his soul away to see it.

    It was very hard on ME not to beg him to tell me something :lol:
     
  17. DEWLine

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    The joke about ST: Into Vancouver gets me wondering, though. Nicholas Campbell as an admiral? Ian Tracey or Venus Terzo as one of Kirk's peers in ship-captaincy? :-)
     
  18. teacake

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    I WANT MIKE DOPUD.
     
  19. SeerSGB

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    To have been there, to witness that? I'd sign my soul away...if it didn't already have a couple of liens on it between the wife and the Devil.
     
  20. Kelthaz

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    Yeah, this makes sense. Into Darkness performed below expectations and reducing the budget is just good business sense. They did the same with Wrath of Khan and we all know how that turned out. If anything, a budget cut is a good thing. A smaller budget means less pressure for the film to succeed and more creative freedom for the writer and director.
     

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