Breaking Bad - Season 5

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  1. Dorian Thompson

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    Just the Walt/Jesse conversation. Walt leaving the bag of money with Jesse's share outside his door. The reveal that Jesse had a gun because he's afraid of Walt--then the scene of Walt telling Skyler he's out, or was that before the conversation with Jesse? I'm tired. I forget.
     
  2. gblews

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    For a minute there I thought Vince was going to give us a Mad Men season ender where all the real significant stuff happens in the penultimate episode rather than the final one of the season.

    But things seemed to be going along just too well. The pile of eff you money in storage, Walt finally doing right by Jessie, Walt deciding to get out, the idyllic scene around the pool, Walt and Skylar making goo goo eyes. Something had to happen.

    Hank; welcome to the pahty pal!

    The use of Nat King Cole's light hearted "Pick Yourself Up" over the brutal killing scenes reminded me of the use of Johnny Maths' "Wonderful Wonderful" during the just as brutal killing scene in the X-Files episode, "Home". And speaking of this episode's music, it's hard to believe it took 4 seasons to get Crystal Blue Persuasion -- sounded nice regardless.

    I'm betting the situation next season unfolds with Walt on the run from his Euro partners, who aren't ready to stop making millions, along with the Hank and the DEA.
     
  3. Dorian Thompson

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    Oh, that's right. The European Madrigal connections are bound to be ticked off when the gravy train just stops because Walter suddenly grew a conscience. Consequences abound. Drug dealers are a violent lot.

    A brilliant point that someone on another board brought up to support the cancer diagnosis[[lung cancer often metastisizes to the brain. The poster's aunt had suffered the same fate and he said that a peculiar habit she developed was often staring into space and then fixating on some subject until someone literally had to snap her out of it.

    Remember? Walter in the hotel room with Todd's connections? Walt was focused on the wall painting until one of the hoods snapped his fingers at him to get his attention. .
     
  4. stj

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    Just? I wish I'd seen it. Is it Walt trying to regrow a conscience, or is it Walt trying to bring Jesse back in? (A replacement so he will be allowed to retire. Why else announce that Jesse was as good a cook as he?)
    Is Jesse's share a fair shake or Walt paying his own legacy cost a la Mike?
     
  5. Guy Gardener

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    Back in season 2 or 3 when some Doctor said that Walt's Tumour had unexplainably shrunk, It was pretty obvious that Vince was suggesting that in his universe that meth cured cancer.

    It's been three months.

    Has he really given the business to Todd and Lydia?

    He couldn't leave unless Todd could cook.

    Good lord.

    Todd and Lydia are probably doing it.

    Dooo-oooing it.
     
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    Oh, man ... what an episode! This is the best show ever!!! But dear god is the wait for next season going to hurt :(
     
  7. Guy Gardener

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    If it was just the Meth, it's possible that Hank could let it slide.

    But all those bodies.

    Walt has to promise to die.

    If Walt can't promise he'll be dead in 6 months, his freedom would be intolerable.

    No matter the cost, the horrible cost.
     
  8. Snaploud

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    It's interesting how the writers are potentially setting up Walt's actions as strengthening white supremacist power in the U.S. Todd could have his own little blue meth white supremacist empire by the end of the show. That's quite a legacy you're building there, Walt.

    He was talking about the nine guys (in reference to him not having to move/hide). I doubt Walt told Saul about Mike's death.
     
  9. Tom

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    It's going to be very hard to convict walter of any deaths, Jesse is the only one left who knew of most of them (not all though) going back to Crazy 8. Jesse is the only one that can truly bring Walter down.
     
  10. Guy Gardener

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    Did you see last nights episode?
     
  11. Dorian Thompson

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    Exactly. Well done, Mr. Gilligan. Well done. Cranston and Paul will rock that kind of conflict. :bolian:
     
  12. DarthPipes

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    Very, very subtle about the painting if the writers were thinking that. I think another reference to Walt's cancer returning is his telling Walt Jr. to make sure Holly has her sunscreen on.
     
  13. Temis the Vorta

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    Wow.

    So have we seen that copy of Leaves Of Grass before? I can never remember details from months or years back, so I googled around and found this on vulture:

    Yeah I don't get that either.

    For whatever reason, I think the ultimate use of the ricin capsule will be by Walt: suicide.
     
  14. Galileo7

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    Agree.:beer:

    Agree.:techman:
     
  15. gblews

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    If I'm not mistaken, and I probably am, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the book the object at Gail's apartment that Walt (and Gus) needed to confiscate before the place was searched? Wasn't Victor the one who recovered the book (and was subsequently killed by Gus for being seen by the cops)? Or was that something else?
     
  16. Joe Washington

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    Now that the first half of Season 5 has finished airing, what do you guys think of the season so far?

    I thought it was a good beginning with Walt's growing darkness and ego after taking down Gus, Jesse trying to be the peacekeeper between Walt and Mike which we knew wasn't going to last forever, and the rise and fall of their criminal partnership.

    I am curious if at the end of last episode, Skyler is willing to give Walt and their marriage another chance after everything that has happened or is she putting on an act and binding her time until she makes her move aganist him for her sake and the sake of her children.
     
  17. Capt. Vulcan

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    My guess on how this all ends is that Hank mills over this idea for a bit because he can't believe it's possible. Eventually he confronts Hank, who maybe tries to play it off. Then tries to tell Hank that he's out and fake begs that he's just a nerd that got over his head and he just wants out. When it's clear he isn't getting what he wants he goes full Heisenberg starts naming off all the crazy shit he's done under Hanks watch, which includes probably offing Mike and Brock, maybe even Jesse's ex girlfriend. Hank doesn't know what to do, so he leans on Jesse and lets him know about Mike, Brock, and the girl. This'll set up Walt Vs. Jesse for the final run.
     
  18. Count Zero

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    For a moment, I imagined Hank totally losing it over all the times Walt more or less admitted to what he was doing with Hank taking it to be a joke (e.g. the money bag when he moved out of the house), running out of the bathroom and just gunning Walt down. :lol:
    The book thing was perhaps a little contrived but I knew that the scene at the swimming pool was way too peaceful not to end badly. I originally thought one of Walt's business partners was going to shoot up the place. For that matter, I don't think Walt's really out. I mean, I'm sure he wants to be but I'm also sure Lydia and the Phoenix gang won't just accept that. Maybe it's one of them he'll gun down in the end?
    I liked how Walt came to see the futility of his business by Skylar showing him the pile of money they can never spend. Before that, we got to see how the cooking had just become another job for him with Todd. I also liked him and Jesse reminiscing about old times - all while Jesse suspected Walt might try something. That was really tense.

    So, how long do we have to wait for the rest of the season?
     
  19. Dorian Thompson

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    I can't imagine Hank confronting Walt and giving him a chance to lie without trying to build a case first. What if Walt ran? Then Hank would have nothing. Then there's the question of how will it look to Hank's subordinates and co-workers that Heisenberg was under Hank's nose all this time? That's why Hank's boss got canned over Gus Fring. It's all complicated. I think Hank goes after local dealers to try and get corroborating evidence and starts with one Jesse Pinkman. The potential for conflict is delicious, and we have Lydia and the Czech Madrigal element who are going to want their supply to continue. Hell.....could Walt play them off as the masterminds and himself more of a victim? Maybe he's turning state's evidence? Wouldn't that be something?

    Or maybe it's like VG teased to Cranston about the flash forward without giving any more info: Walter is back to protect someone. Who? Himself? Jesse? Hank? Walter looked like Walter in the flash forward--not Heisenberg.
     
  20. gblews

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    If Hank busts Heisenberg he will be a local DEA god regardless of the fact that Heisenberg was operating right under Hank's nose. The problem for Hank would be if someone else busts Heisenberg and Hank remains clueless -- that's what sank Hank's former boss. Gus was operating under his nose and it took Hank, who wasn't even a full time agent at the time, to turn the spotlight on Fring.

    But Hank has the scent now, so there's no chance of anyone upstaging him.

    What Hank might do is hand the information over to his team and let them start the investigation behind the scenes (as you suggest) while he pretends nothing has changed with Walt. This would allow him to stay close to Walt observe and gently probe when the opportunity presents itself. For now, the book is not a smoking gun, but something that is very suspicious.

    I just thought, in just the last 3 episodes Walt has been directly, or indirectly, responsible for the deaths of 11 people. The killing is starting to be even worse than the meth dealing.