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Discussion in 'General Trek Discussion' started by David F. Weisma, Jun 6, 2012.

  1. David F. Weisma

    David F. Weisma Lieutenant Junior Grade Red Shirt

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    Who thinks the Borg are the most awesome Trek villains ever? It might seem they are gone, but they could get a makeover like the Cylons did. The few scattered ships are too weak to try and assimilate other species by force, so they announce they've reformed, and only take volunteers. Then the Ferrengi help them start a cult ...
     
  2. BillJ

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    -Brett- Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I know it's kind of a silly nitpick in the middle of the rest of the craziness, but why Ferengi?
     
  5. RoJoHen

    RoJoHen Awesome Premium Member

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    Because the new, rebooted Borg are going to be comic relief?
     
  6. sonak

    sonak Vice Admiral Admiral

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    the new Borg cult are suddenly profit-motivated?

    "we will add your capital to our own. Your investment portfolio will increase tenfold. Resistance is futile."
     
  7. Enterprise is Great

    Enterprise is Great Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    uuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmm...okayyyyyyyy....

    slowly backing out of this weird thread...


    bye!
     
  8. T'Girl

    T'Girl Vice Admiral Admiral

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    We are the Borg, lower your trade barriers. We will add your production facilities, distribution network, and consumption of goods and services to our own.

    Legislative regulatory constrains
    are futile.

    :)
     
  9. Tiberius

    Tiberius Commodore Commodore

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    The Borg in a cult? Knocking at the door and asking you if you;ve found assimilation?
     
  10. King Daniel Beyond

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    We are the Caeliar. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

    BORG QUEEN: FUUUUU-!:eek:

    And so ended the Borg, in the fantastic Destiny trilogy.


    Although, yes, reimagined Borg could be awesome. Using CG to replace or remove body parts (a lower jaw, part of an arm, part of the torso etc), and replace some with machinery would make them look far more scary than just wearing rubber over the top.
     
  11. sonak

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    if by "fantastic" you mean silly, with a ridiculous Borg origin story. I wish they'd retcon that trilogy and use the Borg again.
     
  12. King Daniel Beyond

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    I thought it was an excellent origin story. Each to their own, I guess.

    The entire novel line spins off from Destiny now. No way is it ever being retconned away!
     
  13. BillJ

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    Please. When they need a sales boost, they will be trumpeting the return of the Borg, loud and proud.
     
  14. Gary7

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    LOL, but I'd have worded it as "OUR investment portfolio will benefit from yours."

    Or, "We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. We will add your distinctive financial capital to our own, to increase our portfolio. Your only hope is to open a Borg IRA. Resistance is futile."
    ;)
     
  15. horatio83

    horatio83 Commodore Commodore

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    Sure but the best Borg stories (Q Who, Best of Both Worlds and I, Borg) worked well although they did not look particularly scary and FC worked not because but in spite of their zombie looks.
    I am not a fan of the shift from the Borg as more of an ideological enemy to this Cronenbergian "assimilation is so horrible" stuff.
     
  16. sonak

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    "BOBW" and "family" portrayed assimilation as pretty horrible. That wasn't exactly a FC revelation.
     
  17. Temis the Vorta

    Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Well. The Borg used to be awesome. They're an awesome idea, certainly, but as we've all seen, badly misused.

    They could be brought back, but the key is, you've got take some advice from Aretha Franklin and treat them with R E S P E C T.

    That means: the Borg almost never can be defeated, unless Starfleet is being incredibly clever. Our jaws should hit the floor, they're so clever. Short of that, the Borg wins. Most of the time, the only solution is just to run away.

    And assimilation is P E R M A N E N T. No go-backs. No treating assimilation like a dress-up party. The next time the Borg is brought into a story, some popular character should be assimilated and it's permanent. Someone like Chekov. Something that will punch us in the gut, make us really understand, shit is getting real.
     
  18. horatio83

    horatio83 Commodore Commodore

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    It was implied that it is horrible but it was not really shown and in Family Picard talks more about having being forced to do things against his will than about the assimilation.
    Before FC the Borg are far less material creatures than afterwards and as usual TNG worked best when it was about ideas.
     
  19. Temis the Vorta

    Temis the Vorta Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    PS, and leave the Ferengi out of it.

    Now if you could figure out a way the Dominion could make use of the Borg, you might be onto something. Can a Founder be assimilated? Maybe not. Could they figure out a way to immunize Jems and Vortas from assimilation? Or would it matter? Just have the Vorta termination implant set to trigger whenever nanoprobes are detected. As for the Jems, cut them off from the white and they die.

    If the Dominion were the only force in the galaxy effectively immune from the Borg, wouldn't that be interesting? :evil:
     
  20. Tiberius

    Tiberius Commodore Commodore

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    Has there ever been a Borg origin story that hasn't been based along the lines of either "I'm doing this to help them and make some good - Oh no! It all went wrong!" or Humans somehow being responsible?