Boardwalk Empire - Season 3 (Discussion, Spoilers)

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  1. Owain Taggart

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    So, I guess he got set up by what he thought was going to be an out of town job, only it was someone waiting for him.

    I feel bad for Margaret. I keep hoping something good will come out of it for her and Nucky, like some kind of reconciliation, but knowing how gangsters work, that likely will never happen.
     
  2. Emh

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    Damn, I'm going to miss Owen. I figured he was a goner the moment Lucky sold Nucky out. When Eddie woke up Nucky to tell him a package arrived, I fully expected a small Se7en-esque package. Close enough and just as creepy and heartbreaking. Especially with the reveal of Margaret's pregnancy. Her strong reaction in front of Nucky has completely destroyed their relationship, even more so when he finds out she's pregnant.

    I, too, wish Nucky treated Chalky better and hopefully he'll come around on Chalky's proposal, if for no other reason because I want more Chalky. He's been rather absent this season with the exception of one episode.
     
  3. 137th Gebirg

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    ^^^ That, plus Chalky seems to be the only ally with any muscle that Nucky potentially has left in his corner. He's not doing himself any favors by antagonizing Chalky. The previews seem to imply that Nucky may come to realize this soon.

    Heh...my stream of consciousness on the "box" scene went something like, "Hmmm...that box looks big enough for a bod...oh...2 bodies. Damn". Not having seen the actual engagement definitely deepens the darkness of that scene.
     
  4. Tom

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    Why would Nucky be so shocked about Margret cheating on him. It was no secret Nucky was cheating on her. There pretty much even now.
     
  5. 137th Gebirg

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    ^^^ Conversely, I'm also curious why Margaret is angry about Nucky's infidelities. IIRC, she was married to the other Irishman in the beginning of the series when she and Nuck got it on. Technically, she was the first to cheat and I got the impression she knew what she was getting into when she shacked up with him - she's not the naive country girl she pretends to be. Granted, it was a loveless and abusive relationship, but if she's adhering to the principals of Catholic marriage, she doesn't really have the moral high ground either, especially during that period in history when women were still technically the "property" of their husbands (not saying it's right - just saying that's how it was).

    Eh...maybe I'm projecting, but at least with Nuck we always knew pretty much where he stood. He's a gangster and a dog with a bone. Not much pretense there, aside from the polish he puts on when working deals. While she does have an endearing interest at altruistically helping people (with the free clinic), Margaret also seems to ensconce herself in the blanket of faux piety and righteous moral indignation to obfuscate her own sins. Perhaps the clinic was her way of trying to change her spiritual course and right the wrongs of her past deeds. Now that the two things she seems to love in the world are gone (not including her kids), being that of the clinic and Owen (at the behest of Nucky), she may start doing some wacky things in the final 2 eps. Should be VERY cool.
     
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    It was, indeed!

    Now Margaret has the loss of her lover, a baby on the way and a husband that now knows she cheated.
    Considering the time period, Nucky may consider his cheating a given privilege and Margaret's an unforgivable act. It will be interesting to see just what happens.
     
  7. Tom

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    Her first husband 'died' before they got it on.
     
  8. TheGodBen

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    Yeah, Margaret didn't cheat on her first husband (that we know of), Nucky had him killed in the first episode because he beat Margaret and killed their unborn child. Also, he was German, hence her having the surname Schroeder.

    Anyone else get the feeling that Margaret will be drinking some sour milk in the next few weeks? Who would want to bring a child into Nucky's world?

    As for Chalky, I joked after the first episode that the only reason he was on the show was that they wanted Omar in the cast, but that joke almost seems to be true. He's sadly underutilised, he rarely plays a part in the big main plot, and often shows up for one scene in an episode to justify being part of the cast. It makes some sense, being a black guy in that era forces him to live in a separate world from the rest of the cast, but it is disappointing.
     
  9. 137th Gebirg

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    Ugh...my memory has gone to shit. I totally misremembered the order of events and the fact the dude was German. Sucks to get old. :(
     
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    We got some interesting insight into Chalky and his family earlier in the season but that storyline seems to have been abandoned even though it's still kind of unresolved. On the other hand, the main storyline is hard to beat as far as excitement and drama are concerned.
     
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    Chalky seems that he'll feature pretty heavily judging from the promo for this coming Sunday:

    [yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeeZqBfBf38[/yt]

    Man, I can't wait.
     
  12. Owain Taggart

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    Yeah, definitely. Actually, I think she'll likely accept the doctor's offer of doing the class elsewhere. It will give her a chance to do some good while trying to endure her storm, a sort of cold comfort. Also, I'm guessing that she may ask him to perform a service if she doesn't want to keep the child. Currently, he seems to be the only person with an ear for her.

    And I don't think it's so much that she's angry with Nucky's infidelities, but that she knows he has power and able to do anything he pleases to reach his ends, and that his power has finally reached her doorstep. Before, she'd keep a careful distance away from his activities, never wanting to become involved in them, and in a way he kept her safe from harm's way, but now for the first time, that brutal cold calculation has affected her personally, and now she's likely afraid for her own life and her children.

    Also, I have to wonder if this series will go beyond the 3rd season. It almost feels like things are drawing to a close with so many people dying now.
     
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    The trailer looks great. I'm very curious what will happen. Looks like there'll be quite a dramatic ending.


    The show has been renewed for a fourth season so at least Nucky will have to survive.
     
  14. TheGodBen

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    People were saying the same thing after Jimmy died in season 2. I think they approach each season finale as though it may be their last, the show is expensive to produce and doesn't get great ratings so there's always the chance that HBO will pull a Deadwood on it.
     
  15. Warped9

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    Good episode this evening. Nucky and Chalky look to be fast allies with a long history behind them. Eli and Al look like the cavalry at the end.

    I'm wondering what Richard is planning to do with all the guns. I even wondered if he's contemplating some manner of suicide. Jillian is a fucked up bitch and little Tommy would probably be better off with Richard.
     
  16. Owain Taggart

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    Yeah, quite a good episode. Looks like things are really heating up :)

    Not sure about Richard, but I have a feeling he's planning on killing Gillian for the way she's been treating him. But that'd be risky with Rosetti's gang in there, so maybe he's planning on clearing them out of there and escaping with Tommy.
     
  17. 137th Gebirg

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    I'm thinking Richard is going to be killing anyone who would pose a threat to Tommy next week. This would include anyone in Rosetti's crew (actual threat) running around AND Jillian (just 'cause he can). He's already proven to be a gifted assassin with an ironclad conscience, and I get the impression that he feels it is now high-time for a house-cleaning at many different levels.

    Jillian really is a moron to antagonize Richard like that. Does she not understand what he's capable of, or is she just simply lost in denial of the reality of her own decrepit world that she can't see what's going on around her any more?
     
  18. Owain Taggart

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    I think she's naive to think Richard wouldn't do anything to her, with what he's already done. What I don't really get is why she doing this to him, why she's so concerned in preventing him from finding someone he can love, like it affects her? It's not like she's ever been in love with him. They've certainly never showed any inkling of that.
     
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    She's never been portrayed as being very well wrapped, particularly when it came to her "interactions" with Jimmy in prior seasons. While I'm not a professional psychologist/psychiatrist, I suspect that she would be considered quite unstable by today's standards of mental health evaluation. She seems to be a bit jealous of Richard's new-found love, as she probably now believes her time is past to find someone of her own. That jealousy, combined with her established loony behavior, manifests itself in the kind of hateful babbling that she seems to now be prone to. She better keep that shit in check if she starts "servicing" Mr. Rosetti. One wrong word from that pie hole and she's liable to wind up having a belt tied around her neck and over a rafter. At least Richard has scruples. Gyp...not so much...
     
  20. Owain Taggart

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    Ahh, you're very likely right. Still, that jealousy seems rather indirect in that what he does doesn't directly affect her. From what I've understood, the reason why she hasn't found anyone of her own is because she's always so busy running the place and always plotting. That's how I interpret it anyway. So, it seems very misplaced that she'd be jealous of him due to her own damned problems.