Beverley & Dianas clothes...

Discussion in 'The Next Generation' started by LilyB, Nov 21, 2009.

  1. LilyB

    LilyB Ensign Newbie

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2009
    This may seem silly to some, but I am wondering how it could be that all the guys on duty uniforms are quite strict, but Diana's & Beverley's are not, although as time goes on, Diana's on duty clothes are more often than not, uniform?

    Thankyou!
     
  2. Holdfast

    Holdfast Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2000
    Location:
    17 Cherry Tree Lane
    Real World Reason - they wanted to show off Marina Sirtis' figure so put her in costumes that accentuated her assets.

    In Story Reason - Deanna had more leeway in terms of uniform due to Picard granting this to allow her to appear more informal in counselling situations. This leeway was temporarily revoked in a later episode (not saying more in case you haven't watched the entire series yet), but by the end of the series Deanna wore the standard uniform most of the time by choice anyway.

    Beverly generally wears a standard uniform when on duty throughout the series though, I think.
     
  3. Forbin

    Forbin Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    Location:
    I said out, dammit!
    Diana?

    Deanna.

    Bev wore standard duty uniform throughout the series, but she often added a doctor's lab coat over it. 'Cause she's the doctor.
     
  4. Atariboy

    Atariboy Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2003
    Which is a shame, 'cause the doctor was smokin'.

    It's funny that they eventually go out of their way to create hot, yet facile, characters with the sole intention of dressing them in as little as possible... but hide a realistic character who happens to be hot in a lab coat.
     
  5. Yeoman Randi

    Yeoman Randi Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2009
    Location:
    In a handbasket

    She also wore it for a time to disguise her real life pregnancy.
     
  6. LilyB

    LilyB Ensign Newbie

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2009
    Thankyou for the answers!
    I have just rented the entire TNG over the last month or so, however, about 12 episodes would not play, as i have a 'sensitive' laptop!
    I remember an Admiral telling Deanna to wear formal uniform on the bridge & she seemed to, from then on, wear her uniform most of the time.
    Thanks again :-)
     
  7. TheLonelySquire

    TheLonelySquire Vice Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2007
    I believe that was Captain Edward Jellico in Chain of Command. Great actor. Lousy Captain! Was a real pain in the neck in Total Recall as well....
     
    Last edited: Nov 22, 2009
  8. Klaitu

    Klaitu Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2004
    Location:
    The 1980's
    Crusher got that space doctor's coat that they could never decide if the communicator should be stuck on that, or on her uniform, or on both. Both Pulaski and Crusher got space surgery scrubs, too.
     
  9. Malleus

    Malleus Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2002
    Location:
    Canada's Centre of the Universe
    That's the weird thing. Honestly, I think they failed at this. I mean, Marina's "assets" looked bigger in 2002 when she was on the red carpet for Nemesis than they ever were in the series.
     
  10. Holdfast

    Holdfast Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Feb 19, 2000
    Location:
    17 Cherry Tree Lane
    I tend to agree, actually. The space fashions they used for Troi's dresses in early TNG weren't always flattering to her proportions in my opinion. Still, it's pretty obvious that the costumes were intended to up the eye candy quotient.
     
  11. Emnabtond

    Emnabtond Lieutenant

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2009
    McFadden had an amazing body, its a pity they did hide it with a labcoat so often.
     
  12. BolianAuthor

    BolianAuthor Writer, Battlestar Urantia Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2003
    Location:
    Torrance, California
    Aye, Gates is perfection times a hundred. But because she's so hot, she ALWAYS looked great. As for an in-universe explanation, I'd assume a potential "counseling" patient would feel more comfortable spilling their guts to someone in a more casual dress, than a full Starfleet uniform. IDK if that makes sense, it's just something I thought about.

    Actually, Troi had it more awkward than Crusher, because since she's an empath, she could no doubt tell when someone was um... "distracted" by her look, during a counseling session. I'd think that would make things awkward.

    Jellico was a Godsend, for putting Troi in a standard uniform. I agreed with him wholeheartedly. He was a badass Captain.
     
  13. CommanderRaytas

    CommanderRaytas Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2006
    Location:
    Intergalactic Planetary Planetary Intergalactic
    See, I did not know that. I'll have to pay attention. What season was that?
     
  14. The Castellan

    The Castellan Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    May 2, 2004
    Location:
    The Plains of Cydonia
    I say BOOO! to Jellico. :klingon: I hope someone slipped him some a triple dose of laxative in his coffee for that. :evil:
     
  15. Bacl

    Bacl Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2006
    Location:
    Wehnimer's Landing, Elanthia
    Troi was also barely Starfleet. Her training was primarily in psychology, therapy, diplomacy, etc. She didn't just enroll in Starfleet like everyone else and end up a ship's counselor; quite the opposite in fact. She went into psychology, and that took her to working for Starfleet.

    In 'Disaster' O'brien has to remind Ro that Troi actually has rank, and Troi herself seems not used to dealing with people as an officer. She was practically a civilian, and thus she didn't have to dress the part as long as her Captain didn't object.

    After Jellico forced her to wear a standard uniform, Troi started wanting to be more of an officer than a diplomat/counselor. She took the command test not long after, and showed more inititive and involvement as a result (grabbing the helm in Generations would be unheard of a few years back).

    I always thought Troi was smoking hot, her aquamarine uniform being the absolute apotheosis of sexy until Jadzia showed up. I liked Crusher's lab coat, I think it was Starfleet's way to compensate for lack of pockets for someone like a physician who might need half a dozen gadgets on hand to do her job.

    And I am shocked and appalled there is no war of pics of these ladies at their sexiest! For shame!
     
  16. Red Ranger

    Red Ranger Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 20, 2005
    Location:
    New York City, the greatest city in the world!
    Don't forget Ronny Cox was also a memorable villain in Robocop. And if you haven't seen Deliverance, he's terrific in that great flick, too! -- RR
     
  17. The Castellan

    The Castellan Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    May 2, 2004
    Location:
    The Plains of Cydonia
    As I said, I hope someone slipped some extra strength laxative in his coffee, I would have. ;)
     
  18. Ward Fowler

    Ward Fowler Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2005
    Location:
    Lucerne's Parlor of Mystery
    oops-double post
     
  19. Ward Fowler

    Ward Fowler Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2005
    Location:
    Lucerne's Parlor of Mystery
    Yeah, he put in a really great performance in that one. I also think it's probably the best work Burt Reynolds ever did. It's a shame that the movie is only known for the famous "squeal like a pig" scene, because it really is a very good movie with a lot to say about the concept of "man vs. nature".
     
  20. Red Ranger

    Red Ranger Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 20, 2005
    Location:
    New York City, the greatest city in the world!
    Quite true on all counts, Ward. It's also known for the dueling banjos sequence. The whole crux of the movie is man vs. nature, and Lewis (Reynolds) fancies himself at one with nature. A harrowing movie! John Boorman, the director, also helmed Excalibur. Reynolds' other best work was, IMHO, in Sharky's Machine. One of his costars in that flick was Bernie Casey, who later played Sisko's friend Cal Hudson, the Maquis leader in DSN. -- RR
     

Share This Page