Ben Cross or Mark Leanord?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by darkshadow0001, Jun 10, 2009.



Poll closed Jun 17, 2009.
  1. Mark Lenard is Sarek...but I like this new one too

    26 vote(s)
  2. Awful casting!!! or as some might say CASTING VIOLATION!

    3 vote(s)
  1. kythe

    kythe Commander Red Shirt

    Mar 17, 2009
    I didn't like Ben Cross at all. Mark Lenard was alive and engaged in whatever scene he was in, even when he wasn't speaking. His character just had presence that you couldn't help but be drawn to. Cross didn't really do much but just sit there and say lines.
  2. rgb1701

    rgb1701 Captain Captain

    Jun 24, 2001
    I thought Bein Crauss did a fine job, an ample successor to Maerc Leinahrrd's seminal character :D
  3. Bloody Green Shirt

    Bloody Green Shirt Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Feb 1, 2005
    Green Shirt
    Seminal character?? I was getting ready to ask when did Mahrc Lennaerd ever play an ape, but then it hit me. :confused:
  4. mythicdove

    mythicdove Commander Red Shirt

    May 15, 2009
    I prefer Mark to Ben, and I do like Ben as an actor. But Mark was just better in the role to me.
  5. Crusher Disciple

    Crusher Disciple Admiral Admiral

    Dec 4, 2001
    Crusher Disciple

    Great job with the roll.
  6. Daneel

    Daneel Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Jan 31, 2009
    Yep, those are pretty much my thoughts too.

    Like others have said, Mark Lenard will always be the definitive Sarek, but I thought Cross did an admirable job.

    However, one wonders what events in the alternate timeline were so different as to cause this Sarek to start speaking in a British accent. ;)
  7. Jeri

    Jeri Vice Admiral Admiral

    Feb 20, 2001
    Chicago, Illinois, USA
  8. Brutal Strudel

    Brutal Strudel Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Lenard. Not even close.
  9. FarDreaming

    FarDreaming Lieutenant Red Shirt

    Apr 5, 2009
    I think Cross did a workman-like job, nothing special to it. Personally, I think that Mark Lenard was able to convey more with a single word, or subtle movement, and had a real presence on the screen. Not to mention he was sooo much better looking than Cross!
  10. iguana_tonante

    iguana_tonante Admiral Admiral

    Sep 15, 2006
    Italy, EU
    Don't make me think at the horror of the italian dubbing of Sarek in this movie. Ben Cross has a very peculiar voice, and in Italian they gave him the voice... of Riker. I wanted to cry. :(
  11. indranee

    indranee Vice Admiral Admiral

    Nov 20, 2003
    Warrrrrrrrrshington, DC
  12. Starbreaker

    Starbreaker Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Feb 19, 2001
    Chattanooga, TN
    I wasn't even thinking about Mark Lenard the first time I saw the movie. Cross definitely wasn't a distraction.
  13. Ghouleddie74

    Ghouleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Apr 25, 2001
    The Warped Sector of the Demented Quadrant
    Ben Cross did a magnificent job as Sarek in the new movie...but I'll always be a major Mark Lenard fan and prefer his portrayal of the ambassador.
  14. Claudia

    Claudia Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

    Feb 23, 2006
    Sector 001
    I think the comparison is a bit unfair since the characters were portrayed as being in quite different situations.

    Lenard's Sarek was always in control, his appearances were always business-related, i.e. diplomacy etc, the whole personal relationships to Amanda and/or Spock were treated on the side.

    In STXI, Sarek almost exclusively had to focus on his personal issues, he had no other role than as father to Spock, therefore, of course he can't bring the gravitas of a seaoned diplomat into his portrayal. And let's not forget, not only did Spock lose his mother, but Sarek lost his beloved wife (something Lenard's Sarek didn't have to deal with on screen) - that's having a huge impact on his character which Cross manages to portray quite well IMO.
  15. Kosh Naranek

    Kosh Naranek Captain Captain

    May 25, 2009
    Elwood P. Dowd's House
    I did not like Cross as Sarek the first go round. I missed Mark Lenard.

    After my third viewing, I have come to accept him in the role. When he admitted to loving Amanda, he won me over a bit. :techman:

    However, I will always love Mark Lenard's Sarek.

    I was so excited to see him on TNG. He we always be Sarek to me.
  16. DonIago

    DonIago Vice Admiral Admiral

    Mar 22, 2001
    Burlington, VT, USA
    Ironically, Spock and Sarek's relationship is one of the few things faring decidedly better in NuTrek than in Trek Prime.

    I wasn't impressed with Xross's performance, and he's defintely no LeFleur, but I could see him growing into the part in future portrayals.
  17. Bloody Green Shirt

    Bloody Green Shirt Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Feb 1, 2005
    Green Shirt
    I remember someone bitching before the movie came out that Krosses face was too long compared to Marchk Lenords. :confused:
  18. Finnegan

    Finnegan Captain Captain

    Nov 7, 2008
    Seminal? I thought this was a Trek thread and not a porn discussion.
    I digress. Clearly, M'aarek Lyneryd is the superior Sairyk........
  19. MvRojo

    MvRojo Vice Admiral Admiral

    Apr 22, 2001
    Los Angeles, CA
    Ben Cross - 6.5/10
    Mark Lenard - 10/10

    Mark Lenard is hands down, the best Vulcan other than Nimoy's Spock. He was just spot-on.
  20. Nebula1400

    Nebula1400 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    May 9, 2009
    Starship New Jersey
    Mark Lenard was definitely the better Sarek, but Ben Cross was fine. My biggest problem with Cross, though, is that he is too old to be playing Sarek. In TOS, the Sarek who was a few years older (at 102) looked much younger than this Sarek. He looked like a man in his 40's, not his 60's. It was especially disconcerting when he was in the scene with Kid Spock.

    And please learn to spell Lenard the right way. LENARD. The misspellings are giving me a migraine!

    And what's with spelling CROSS wrong? Jeez!