Beauty and the Beast is Awful.

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Guy Gardener, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. Forbin

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    One of my favorite Ron Perlman roles was out of makeup - the wayward town preacher in the 1990s TV series "The Magnificent Seven." He just brought such quiet dignity with an undertone of "do NOT mess with me" to the role.
     
  2. Guy Gardener

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    He was amazing as Death Stroke the Terminator in the Teen Titans cartoon a while back, and frankly when he found out that there was a live action Deathstroke up from grabs in Arrow, I can't see how/why he didn't leap through hoops to play the part again.
     
  3. propita

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    Jon Stewart gave Ron Perlman a shout out this week. He mentioned the new BatB show, then mentioned that if Ron Perlman wasn't in it, it wasn't worth anything.

    Jon shoots...Jon scores!!
     
  4. Guy Gardener

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    Episode 2.

    Good lord.

    Stop it.

    Worse.

    "Vincent" actually kills some one in front of her and she says "thank you".

    Some cop.

    And then the ME covers up because she's cute.

    ARRRGH!

    As far as the crime of the week?

    The bad guys kept leaving Scoobie-Doo-level clues.

    "Sigh"
     
  5. Forbin

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    Haven't watched it, but here's a (silly) thought for an episode:

    Place the show in-continuity with the original. The new "beast" is the son of Vincent and Catherine from the original series, all grown up. This opens the door for a Ron Perlman-as-Vincent 1.0 guest appearance.

    That's about the only way I'm gonna watch an episode.
     
  6. Random_Spock

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    That's a good idea :).
     
  7. propita

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    I watched the first episode, but since there were two other shows I wanted to watch at the same time as the second episode, I passed on it. Looks like I'm not wasting my time.
     
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    I think the show has potential.

    The beast is actually a doctor who joined the Army, which turned him into a genetically modified infantryman because - um, they misread his medical degree? Heck, in the second episode it turned out that someone else was his squad's medic (must've been a neurosurgeon or a heart transplant specialist in civilian practice). Stupidity on that level is going to take some serious writing to explain away.

    The focus on the "beauty" part of the title is a new twist. The genetically modified super-soldier will confront villains in the cosmetic, hair-care, and fashion industries, (along with the generally neglected cesspit of ballet and broadway theater villains) where his medical skills and super-powers won't be used at all.

    I'm thinking they need to come up with some sort of alter-ego cover story for him, and given his incedible senses, I'm thinking he could work by day as a food critic for the New York Times or Daily Planet, while by night he beats up celebrity chefs who murder people with booby-trapped pastries. Then they could work in the side angle that the military is trying to kill him before he publishes Afghan curried chicken recipes.
     
  9. Guy Gardener

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    Re-fricking-newed.

    The story is going to the right places BROADLY.

    Boy meets girl, Boy stalks girl, Boy saves girl, girl falls in love with boy, boy and girl run from global conspiracy, second boy likes girl, global conspiracy co-opts second boy, second boy finds out about first boy, second boy tries to kill every one, second boy figures out that first boy isn't that bad, second boy sacrifices himself to save boy and girl, third boy turns up...

    But minute to minute, Beauty and the Beast is just so excruciatingly painful, listening to these two emotional fuck ups talk about how impossibly in love with each other they are and how the world and law cannot get in the way of their undying emotional entanglement... I just want the bad guys to win so bad.

    Here's my problem.

    What I didn't find out till about episode 14.

    Jay Ryan is a kiwi.

    His American accent is awful, and he'd bought into a shit franchise, but that's fricking Kevin from Go Girls!!!!

    Go Girls is/was Awesome, so by extension so too is Jay, but I feel so betrayed that he would invest his talent, HIDE his talent inside basically an abomination trying to drive me insane.

    ####!
     
  10. Forbin

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    Wow, it's still on!??! :wtf:
     
  11. Mr. Adventure

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    ^ It's on CW, right? Smallville ran for 10 seasons and Supernatural has gone for 8...
     
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  12. Agent Richard07

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    It's getting better.
     
  13. Admiral2

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    Ditto.
     
  14. Guy Gardener

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    Just be glad you still don't date 17 year olds, although how old are your children, but my point is that the demographic is an emo cutter half way through puberty who then has the audaciousness to compare themselves to you when saying something like "I finally get all that shit you're into, hard science fiction like Beauty and Beast has such an edge."

    It's not like you meant to strike them.

    You were outside yourself.

    It just happened.
     
  15. Enterprise is Great

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    Especially since the dropped the case of the week (which were horrible. the writers had no clue how to do them properly) and made it more serialized.
     

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