Battlestar Galactica 4x18: "Islanded in a Stream of Stars"

Discussion in 'Battlestar Galactica & Caprica' started by Agent Richard07, Mar 6, 2009.

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Grade the episode...

  1. Excellent

    26.2%
  2. Above Average

    41.9%
  3. Average

    22.5%
  4. Below Average

    7.3%
  5. Poor

    2.1%
  1. startrekwatcher

    startrekwatcher Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Are there two one hour episodes left or is there a one hour episode next week and the final episode on the 20th is a two hour sendoff?
     
  2. tomalak301

    tomalak301 Admiral Premium Member

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    Daybreak I - One Hour
    Daybreak II - two Hours.
     
  3. startrekwatcher

    startrekwatcher Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Really most of the Cylons have been ignored. Caprica Six has been wasted since season three when she defected.

    Sonia is a plot device. No sign of Simon, Doral and the other Cylons. Tory pretty much has been wasted. Ellen had one good episode in "No Exit". I could care less about Boomer. She has been off the show for so long.
     
  4. Harvey

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    Why would we see Simon or Doral? We barely spent any time on Cavil's colony ship (if that is indeed what it was).

    Tory's been wasted, though. I don't know why she wasn't just killed by Tyrol after the murder of Cally. Speaking of Tyrol, the one gaping hole was his absence the entire episode. Explained in the podcast?

    Above average. Heading towards what could be a great finale. Loved the final scene with Tigh and Adama--as much a goodbye to "Galactica" the series as "Galactica" the ship. :)
     
  5. Velocity

    Velocity Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    But what happened to Chief Tyrol? Did they know that he beat the 8 who just died and that he helped Boomer escape? Is he in the brig?
     
  6. startrekwatcher

    startrekwatcher Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    These last three episodes might be masterpieces but it won't make up for me anyway for the clumsy journey to get there. Instead of every episode for the most part being solid, attention-getting, necessary and improving on the one before it-this season and last season were choppy at best with no mastery of consistent storytelling with episodes whose inclusion seemed weak or worse pointless.

    It is clear they never had enough material to sustain twenty episodes and it shows painfully. As much as Moore considered BSG the anti-Voyager show, this wrap up reminds me of the Voyager finale where everything was saved for it and less like DS9 where the buildup was riveting for the most part and very little in the way of waste. In fact, DS9 had so much material it was clear they didn't get to all of it.
     
  7. Agent Richard07

    Agent Richard07 Admiral Admiral

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    I wonder if the Chief will ever find out what she did.
     
  8. Brent

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    I don't think they found out, last we saw he regreted his action, but he didn't tell anyone, so no one knows.
     
  9. startrekwatcher

    startrekwatcher Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Well maybe it would have been nice to have learned little bit more about Tyrol/Tory's relationship on Earth. Afterall we briefly learned they were planning to get married but like so many other ideas offered up by the show over the last few years it looks to have been left behind and forgotten.
     
  10. Non Sync

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    Who wants to see Galactica become reborn just like Kara's Viper?
     
  11. AJBryant

    AJBryant Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Did we... did we see Roslin and Adama share a spliff in the infirmary?
     
  12. Bisz

    Bisz Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    This episode was a turd, in a rather long line of turds. I do hope that they manage to get to something at least resembling a wrap-up before thsi train wreck of a TV show ends.
     
  13. Captain Fine

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    I don't understand the negativity toward this episode. I really liked this one! It would be really funny if Sam became Galactica's hybrid. It begs the question, if Galactica jumped into Cavil territory, would the raiders even be able to attack it? The raiders were able to detect Sam before and disengage, surely they wouldn't attack a hybrid battlestar?
     
  14. Tomato

    Tomato Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    thanks for the review. I guess I won't be dling this episode. synopsis it is. Seriously BSG had such potential and then it pissed it all away. I wonder who is going to screaming this time around that BSG "deserves" an emmy.
     
  15. DarthPipes

    DarthPipes Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I voted Excellent after this episode hovered at Above Average. Loved the last few minutes and it was an excellent set-up to the series finale. A lot of good stuff here, like the end scene and Tigh's scene with Ellen. Everything with Tigh is gold.
     
  16. Mr Awe

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    Average. This one just didn't have much pizzazz. There were a few touching moments and then it ended. I've also realized that the last 3 episodes, which were all sort of lackluster, should have been combined into one episode which would've been fantastic. Just take the best moments of the last 3 episodes and wow. As it was, the plot developments over the past 3 episodes didn't warrant 3 episodes. It seems like the writers have just been sleep walking through these last several.

    So, it looks like things are going to kick up a notch next week. Good. About time. The end is near. *yawn*

    Mr Awe
     
  17. Mr Awe

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    No, sorry, it really isn't. The BSG writers should've looked to Lost to see how to write an excellent extended story where both the characters AND plot are developed week in, week out. BSG suffers because the writers can't seem to do both at the same time.

    It's funny because BSG's premise is more up my alley than Lost's premise. However, the execution on Lost is so much better that I typically end up enjoying its episodes more.

    Mr Awe
     
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  18. Mr Awe

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    Hmm, let's check in with the episode then to evaluate your assessment:

    More welding
    Sam still in a coma but, wait, now he's spouting nonsense
    Hera still on route
    Boomer visits her imaginery house again
    Opera house vision repeats
    Thraces rehashes that she died and is reborn
    Final Five don't do squat
    Adama is sad that Roslin is dying

    I can keep going but the theme is clear. It's just more of the same stuff dragging out. I see people saying, but, but, it's buildup. Sure, but buildup doesn't have to be bland. And, again, Lost has mastered building up both the plot and characters simultaneously. With good writing, buildup doesn't have to have these bland patches.

    One good line, Tigh, "Come back when you're 100% sure" in reference to the ship destroying itself!

    Mr Awe
     
  19. DarthPipes

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    That's been the problem with the writing on BSG. The writers had ideas for issues they wanted to tackle. War, torture, genocide, how one would survive, etc. But it's clear they had no idea what to do with the Cylons are are making it up as it goes along.
     
  20. startrekwatcher

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    I agree with you 100%. Lost is the most serialized and complex show I've ever seen. It does everything well. It isn't flawless but it is a show that I can appreciate on many levels.

    It has proven that you can do a heavily serialized show without any fillers for the most part. It shows how to alternate between threads and to make almost every single one interesting so that when you focus on a different plot arc you find yourself enjoying it as much as the others. It has engaging characters. It is dramatic without resorting to the heavy-handedess of BSG with the over-the-top dramatic scenes and reliance upon those close-up intense facial shots to sell the idea.

    It also shows how to do an effective slow burn where you build interestingly towards the climax and that the journey to that narrative point is just as satisfying as the finale itself.

    And Lost is a show you can also appreciate for simply the structure and the way it is assembled--timing reveals at just the right moment for impact, the way it develops a storyline over a season, how everything that is seemingly unconnected at the start of a new season plausibly folds into each other without feeling contrived or forced, how you can step back and mentally visualize the evolution of separate threads and their connection to others. Lost is a show I don't mind investing the extra effort into whereas I'm far less concerned or diligent about absorbing every detail or wanting to go back and rewatch episodes of BSG.
     

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